Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fuori della Chiesa non c’e la salvezza.

Non si salvera.

Please translate.

"Outside the church there is no salvation. You will not be saved." unspoken: but if you are a good Catholic, receiving sacraments from pedophile priests and/or financially supporting an organization that protects them while not protecting their victims, then when you die, (assuming you are in a state of grace) you will go to heaven and live eternally, with God, Jesus and Mary and all the pedophile priests and people who protected them -- assuming they, too, were in a state of grace when they died.

Translation is fine, but message is wrong. Our Catechism teaches homosexuality is disordered. We must rid the priesthood of it. We need good Catholics to remain.

The Catechism also teaches that all you need to do to get into heaven is confess your sins and say a good act of contrition. That puts you in a state of grace. The last rites would do the same.

Honest question for Catholics - do you seriously think that God would punish you if you stopped going to church, in the name of "boycotting" the non-action by Church hierarchy over molesting and raping children?

Do you really, truly believe in a God that would consider having faith on your own, outside the current church system, as dangerous to your salvation? Given current conditions? I honestly cannot fathom a God like that. If so, then he is not a good and just God.

Honest question for you. How many times have you posted in the last week? 200? 300? Do you have a family or any hobbies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fuori della Chiesa non c’e la salvezza.

Non si salvera.

Please translate.

"Outside the church there is no salvation. You will not be saved." unspoken: but if you are a good Catholic, receiving sacraments from pedophile priests and/or financially supporting an organization that protects them while not protecting their victims, then when you die, (assuming you are in a state of grace) you will go to heaven and live eternally, with God, Jesus and Mary and all the pedophile priests and people who protected them -- assuming they, too, were in a state of grace when they died.

Translation is fine, but message is wrong. Our Catechism teaches homosexuality is disordered. We must rid the priesthood of it. We need good Catholics to remain.

The Catechism also teaches that all you need to do to get into heaven is confess your sins and say a good act of contrition. That puts you in a state of grace. The last rites would do the same.

Honest question for Catholics - do you seriously think that God would punish you if you stopped going to church, in the name of "boycotting" the non-action by Church hierarchy over molesting and raping children?

Do you really, truly believe in a God that would consider having faith on your own, outside the current church system, as dangerous to your salvation? Given current conditions? I honestly cannot fathom a God like that. If so, then he is not a good and just God.

Honest question for you. How many times have you posted in the last week? 200? 300? Do you have a family or any hobbies?

Honest question for immediate pp -- do you realize that many people who are upset with the Catholic church are posting here -- not just one preson repeatedly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fuori della Chiesa non c’e la salvezza.

Non si salvera.

Please translate.

"Outside the church there is no salvation. You will not be saved." unspoken: but if you are a good Catholic, receiving sacraments from pedophile priests and/or financially supporting an organization that protects them while not protecting their victims, then when you die, (assuming you are in a state of grace) you will go to heaven and live eternally, with God, Jesus and Mary and all the pedophile priests and people who protected them -- assuming they, too, were in a state of grace when they died.

Translation is fine, but message is wrong. Our Catechism teaches homosexuality is disordered. We must rid the priesthood of it. We need good Catholics to remain.

The Catechism also teaches that all you need to do to get into heaven is confess your sins and say a good act of contrition. That puts you in a state of grace. The last rites would do the same.

Honest question for Catholics - do you seriously think that God would punish you if you stopped going to church, in the name of "boycotting" the non-action by Church hierarchy over molesting and raping children?

Do you really, truly believe in a God that would consider having faith on your own, outside the current church system, as dangerous to your salvation? Given current conditions? I honestly cannot fathom a God like that. If so, then he is not a good and just God.

Honest question for you. How many times have you posted in the last week? 200? 300? Do you have a family or any hobbies?

On all the threads? I've post about 5 times, total. Yep, I have family, hobbies, and was traveling a lot recently. I answered your question - how about you answer my sincere one, instead of deflecting by intentionally trying to insult people with your second question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also suggest going more traditional if you are accustomed to the Catholic church and try out a few different congregations:

Episcopal: https://www.episcopalchurch.org/find-a-church
Presbyterian: https://www.pcusa.org/search/congregations/
Lutheran: https://www.elca.org/FindACongregation

Good luck OP.

This. Let your kids know you plan on visiting new churches and ask them what they think about the service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also suggest going more traditional if you are accustomed to the Catholic church and try out a few different congregations:

Episcopal: https://www.episcopalchurch.org/find-a-church
Presbyterian: https://www.pcusa.org/search/congregations/
Lutheran: https://www.elca.org/FindACongregation

Good luck OP.

This. Let your kids know you plan on visiting new churches and ask them what they think about the service.

Really? Let those without sin cast the first stone.

Please don't create more chaos by letting hysteria rip you away from your children's parish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also suggest going more traditional if you are accustomed to the Catholic church and try out a few different congregations:

Episcopal: https://www.episcopalchurch.org/find-a-church
Presbyterian: https://www.pcusa.org/search/congregations/
Lutheran: https://www.elca.org/FindACongregation

Good luck OP.

This. Let your kids know you plan on visiting new churches and ask them what they think about the service.

Really? Let those without sin cast the first stone.

Please don't create more chaos by letting hysteria rip you away from your children's parish.

Much less chaos in other churches. And, I don't have to explain to my child that gay people are sinners, transgender people are sinners, etc.

And my money no longer goes to the cover up of priests. And this was just one state! Think of how devasting it is when other states start coming forward and exposing the priests. Such a debacle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also suggest going more traditional if you are accustomed to the Catholic church and try out a few different congregations:

Episcopal: https://www.episcopalchurch.org/find-a-church
Presbyterian: https://www.pcusa.org/search/congregations/
Lutheran: https://www.elca.org/FindACongregation

Good luck OP.

This. Let your kids know you plan on visiting new churches and ask them what they think about the service.

Really? Let those without sin cast the first stone.

Please don't create more chaos by letting hysteria rip you away from your children's parish.

Always with the guilt tripping, eh?