Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VLC parents have no problem welcoming kids who made another club team but have found that they don't enjoy the culture there.

Translation - Madlax families you will find a shelter and a home there. Similar brand name. Similar college placement. Totally dissimilar sanity and values of the owners.

[Anonymous]

Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

So why are you subscribed to it then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

No but it's the start of NCAA lacrosse season so like many clubs, they are highlighting former players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

LOL he is got to be on this site reading this.

[Anonymous]

VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

No but it's the start of NCAA lacrosse season so like many clubs, they are highlighting former players.

It's interesting that so many of the VLC recruits actually play. I know quite a few recruits who either never play, or quit soon after they get to college to focus on academics or other things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did VLC hire a social media specialist? They post daily and manically.

No but it's the start of NCAA lacrosse season so like many clubs, they are highlighting former players.

It's interesting that so many of the VLC recruits actually play. I know quite a few recruits who either never play, or quit soon after they get to college to focus on academics or other things.

I suspect more college athletes quit than is commonly believed - for many reasons!

https://new.berecruited.com/athletes/521209/blog/011314-36-reasons-why-33-of-college-athletes-quit-cut-or-get-asked-to-leave

Brown University Statistic: Nearly one-third of the recruited athletes in the class of 2011 — 70 out of 221 — had quit their sports by November 2010, according to a report submitted to the provost by the Compliance Office. Director of Athletics Michael Goldberger, who said the numbers are very similar year to year.

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The 36 Reasons Why College Athletes Quit, Get Cut or Get Asked To Leave

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

I don't agree with the last part of that statement. Second teams are a great place to put good athletes that are newer to the sport and still need instruction. Not everyone that will be successful in lacrosse picks up a stick before high school. Yes some clubs do use them to pad pockets, but if development and teaching are your priorities I think it is okay to have a second or B team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

I don't agree with the last part of that statement. Second teams are a great place to put good athletes that are newer to the sport and still need instruction. Not everyone that will be successful in lacrosse picks up a stick before high school. Yes some clubs do use them to pad pockets, but if development and teaching are your priorities I think it is okay to have a second or B team.

In the olden days, when there were so few legit clubs in the area, having a B team made sense. These days, with new clubs sprouting up, fielding a B team that can be competitive, and which one could realistically move from a B to an A as the player's develop, is fiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

I don't agree with the last part of that statement. Second teams are a great place to put good athletes that are newer to the sport and still need instruction. Not everyone that will be successful in lacrosse picks up a stick before high school. Yes some clubs do use them to pad pockets, but if development and teaching are your priorities I think it is okay to have a second or B team.

In the olden days, when there were so few legit clubs in the area, having a B team made sense. These days, with new clubs sprouting up, fielding a B team that can be competitive, and which one could realistically move from a B to an A as the player's develop, is fiction.

Agree to disagree. Most large tournaments have B brackets and there are many smaller tournaments with less competitive teams in attendance. The game is growing fast enough that a B team is not just realistic, but also a great tool for kids to work on their skill. There was a much smaller pool of interested players back in the day. I agree that a whole team would never move up, but individual players can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

I don't agree with the last part of that statement. Second teams are a great place to put good athletes that are newer to the sport and still need instruction. Not everyone that will be successful in lacrosse picks up a stick before high school. Yes some clubs do use them to pad pockets, but if development and teaching are your priorities I think it is okay to have a second or B team.

In the olden days, when there were so few legit clubs in the area, having a B team made sense. These days, with new clubs sprouting up, fielding a B team that can be competitive, and which one could realistically move from a B to an A as the player's develop, is fiction.

Agree to disagree. Most large tournaments have B brackets and there are many smaller tournaments with less competitive teams in attendance. The game is growing fast enough that a B team is not just realistic, but also a great tool for kids to work on their skill. There was a much smaller pool of interested players back in the day. I agree that a whole team would never move up, but individual players can.

Not the PP but just look at Madlax. Back in the day, they could make two decent teams. Now they have a really good team and one of the weakest at each age group. NONE of those players move between teams. I do realise that not all players are going to be on THE best team. I also disagree that the game is growing fast enough. Look at the REC leagues in MD and N.VA. Locally, the game is NOT growing. Fewer kids are playing the sport. More clubs and a smaller pool of players. It is better to be on a lesser known club and be the top priority of that club than to be on the B team of a named club. Clubs like MDX, Cannons, 3d, sidewinders, Evergreen, Top Caliber, Battlax, will value the player and provide the best experience possible. The top clubs focus on the top team. They even bring in ringers to win games rather than look to the B club to move kids up. I have not met a parent who felt like the B team was a great experience. The club uses the carrot of making the A team to get your money. If a player is not at the skill level they should simply find a different club and be on that club's top team IMHO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VLC has taken its marketing game to the next level. Good for them.

I agree they are stepping up their game. It is not just social media but planning events like the PLL clinics and also now hosting a rec team tournament is good for N.VA lacrosse. I hope that when building the VLC brand they can keep the primary goal in tact which is to build well run teams. So far so good but I hope they do not start adding a second team in any age group as that is the first sign of going for the $$$$.

I don't agree with the last part of that statement. Second teams are a great place to put good athletes that are newer to the sport and still need instruction. Not everyone that will be successful in lacrosse picks up a stick before high school. Yes some clubs do use them to pad pockets, but if development and teaching are your priorities I think it is okay to have a second or B team.

In the olden days, when there were so few legit clubs in the area, having a B team made sense. These days, with new clubs sprouting up, fielding a B team that can be competitive, and which one could realistically move from a B to an A as the player's develop, is fiction.

Agree to disagree. Most large tournaments have B brackets and there are many smaller tournaments with less competitive teams in attendance. The game is growing fast enough that a B team is not just realistic, but also a great tool for kids to work on their skill. There was a much smaller pool of interested players back in the day. I agree that a whole team would never move up, but individual players can.

Not the PP but just look at Madlax. Back in the day, they could make two decent teams. Now they have a really good team and one of the weakest at each age group. NONE of those players move between teams. I do realise that not all players are going to be on THE best team. I also disagree that the game is growing fast enough. Look at the REC leagues in MD and N.VA. Locally, the game is NOT growing. Fewer kids are playing the sport. More clubs and a smaller pool of players. It is better to be on a lesser known club and be the top priority of that club than to be on the B team of a named club. Clubs like MDX, Cannons, 3d, sidewinders, Evergreen, Top Caliber, Battlax, will value the player and provide the best experience possible. The top clubs focus on the top team. They even bring in ringers to win games rather than look to the B club to move kids up. I have not met a parent who felt like the B team was a great experience. The club uses the carrot of making the A team to get your money. If a player is not at the skill level they should simply find a different club and be on that club's top team IMHO.

This, except that 3d is the largest club lacrosse companies in the nation. I'm not sure I'd put them on the list with the rest of those local clubs.

[Anonymous]

Yes 3d is a national club but last year as Lax Factory they were a solid second tier club with no B teams and a better option than a b team from BLC NL or ML