Key Middle School -Springfield - High Shool Plans?

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee has students from a lot more neighborhoods than Key...

Key is the middle school feeder for Lee high school. There are no other no other neighborhoods, only Key.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee has students from a lot more neighborhoods than Key...

Key is the middle school feeder for Lee high school. There are no other no other neighborhoods, only Key.

Rolling Valley is a split feeder that is about 75% WSHS and 25% Lee HS (100% Irving, I believe but someone can correct me if I am wrong).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

It is a dcum rumor that may or may not be reality, but is likely someone who bought in Lee ans is hoping their kids get rezoned to a different school.

[Anonymous]

The adult ESOL programs have all been shut down. All adults will be referred to Woodson, Bryant, or Plum Center. No more adult ESOL at Lee as of June 15.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee has students from a lot more neighborhoods than Key...

Key is the middle school feeder for Lee high school. There are no other no other neighborhoods, only Key.

Rolling Valley is a split feeder that is about 75% WSHS and 25% Lee HS (100% Irving, I believe but someone can correct me if I am wrong).

Yes, I was mistaken. Besides Key MS, Lee also has 25% of Rollng Valley students. That's not exactly "a lot more neighborhoods than Key", but it is some.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Feeder%20List%20SY2016-17.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The adult ESOL programs have all been shut down. All adults will be referred to Woodson, Bryant, or Plum Center. No more adult ESOL at Lee as of June 15.

That is great for Lee!

Hopefully this move plus the development in the area will help to raise Lee's standing over the next few years.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think the adult ESOL program has anything to do with scores for Lee, though, so I suspect this rumor is just wishful thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

Because adult ESOL students are separated from regular high school students. It's not a rational fear.

[Anonymous]

It’s not losing accreditation.
Also, here are the feeders according to FCPS:
Lee High School Pyramid
Crestwood ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Forestdale ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Garfield ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Lynbrook ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Saratoga ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Springfield Estates ES
Key MS - 100%
Lee HS - 100%
Key MS
Lee HS - 100%

There are always a couple of kids from Irving and another middle school but MOST of our 9th graders come from Key. It’s basically the same school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

Because adult ESOL students are separated from regular high school students. It's not a rational fear.

except for Lee about to lose accreditation and having terrible scores...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

Because adult ESOL students are separated from regular high school students. It's not a rational fear.

except for Lee about to lose accreditation and having terrible scores...

Have you read all of the posts in this thread? That would be a good place to start.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

Because adult ESOL students are separated from regular high school students. It's not a rational fear.

except for Lee about to lose accreditation and having terrible scores...

Have you read all of the posts in this thread? That would be a good place to start.

Yup. i'd give you the same advice. 3 years out from almost losing accreditation isnt comforting. Thats not even enough time to get a new population who could do better (but realistically why would they, pulling from the same neighborhoods?) and "better" scores relative to terrible scores do not make objectively GOOD scores.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, YOUR kid’s scores will likely be the same whether they go to West Springfield or Lake Braddock or Lee. Your kid just may have more opportunities to shine at Lee in extracurriculars (which helps with scholarships) but it’s false to say your kid will be affected by other kids’ scores. If your kid is AAP, then he/she will go through honors and then on to AP or IB classes.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at Lee. Because it’s a smaller school, there are more opportunities for leadership and actually making sports teams. We have thriving theater, chorus, and music programs. You can take Spanish, French, and Arabic. We do offer honors, AP, and IB courses. Nationally recognized library program, 1 to 1 computers, all IB candidates received the diploma last year (only school in FCPS to achieve this), the seniors this year received millions of dollars in scholarships and had 65+ students who graduated with 4.0+ GPAs. Test scores are on the rise, not spiraling downward. The ESOL population is shrinking, but ESOL students take ESOL classes until they are proficient enough to take standard or advanced level classes. Lee students are the same as Key students, so it is kind of funny that someone would be okay at Key but think Lee is somehow different.

Lee teacher, if you follow dcum you will notice there is one (or a few) posters who really want Lee to be shut down so that A) their neighborhood can be rezoned to South County or West Springfield OR B) 5 elementaries can be rezoned to West Springfield, and the West Springfield feeders rezoned to LB and South County, with the gleeful hope that WS scores will tank. They think this closure is supposed to happen very soon, based off a "gatehouse insider" who posts regularly that Lee is losing accreditation very soon.

None of this is necessarily backed by test scores, facts or the rezoning process that must be followed.

how would Lee lose accreditation based on what Lee Teacher has stated above?

According to rumor, Lee is in serious danger of losing accreditation solely because the adult ESOL population has been consolidated at Lee. It's not because of the regular Lee high school students. And I have no idea how accurate the rumor is.

Not surprised. You can't allow everyone in and then think that the schools wont suffer. If Lee is about to lose accreditation, why are parents bad for not wanting their children to go there?

Because adult ESOL students are separated from regular high school students. It's not a rational fear.

except for Lee about to lose accreditation and having terrible scores...

Have you read all of the posts in this thread? That would be a good place to start.

Yup. i'd give you the same advice. 3 years out from almost losing accreditation isnt comforting. Thats not even enough time to get a new population who could do better (but realistically why would they, pulling from the same neighborhoods?) and "better" scores relative to terrible scores do not make objectively GOOD scores.

The scores are in the upper 70s to mid 90s as Lee's highest scores (English, fyi).

What is the score range for losing accreditation?