Key Middle School -Springfield - High Shool Plans?

[Anonymous]

Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

There is a lot of irony there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move
Go private

This is a troll response.


Send your kids to Lee. If you have faith in your parenting and your kids, they will do well. If not, I don't know what to tell you. FCPS provides solid resources for all of its schools.

We won't move but we would go private if TJ is not an option. Why is that a troll response?

Probably because no thought is put into it.

What is your specific issue with the school and have you experienced it first hand in any way?

Should FCPS just close Lee?

My biggest issue with Lee is that my child would be going to a school named after Robet E. Lee and the ugliness of WHY it is named after him.

The test scores are terrible and a family friend who went there recently decsribed it as an awful experience that he couldn't wait to get out of. Why do I need to have first hand experience to determine that it wouldn't be a good fit? Red flags everywhere. We have the resources to avoid it and will.

I have no allegiance to the name and don't really care if they rename it. In no way, however, should it be your biggest concern. The day to day impact of the name on students is nil. They are all Lancers. It does not impact student performance. I just don't hear students saying, "Darn, I would have done better in that class, but that damn Robert E. Lee!"

Test scores - I don't suppose you should be shocked that, in one of the poorest schools in the county with one of the highest ESL populations, that test scores won't be through the roof. Remember, however, that your student is an individual. I know a number of students, including my own children, who score quite well at Lee.

Based on your second paragraph, it doesn't seem as if the name is really your biggest concern. In other words, if they changed the name (your supposed biggest concern), it does not appear you would then be willing to send your kids to Lee. Let's face it, you say you have the means to avoid it and will, which is basically saying you can avoid the 'poors'. This just feeds the self-fulfilling cycle that Lee is trapped in as it gets poorer and poorer.

So, should they close Lee? Or do the surrounding schools want it to exist just so it can absorb the 'poors'?

I am curious, do you consider yourself more liberal or conservative. The vast majority of posters on this site seem to be liberal, but they don't live what they say.

The name "Robert E. Lee" means nothing to Black children? Okay. And the fact that it was named that in retaliation for Fairfax County being forced to desegregate? Okay.

And yes, the test scores are a major concern. My kid is in the AAP and needs to be challenged. How will that happen if the teachers are busy focusing on ESL and whatever else.

You are reaching with the "poors" nonsense so I wont even address it. I dont care what they do with Lee as it wont be my concern.

I am a liberal but probably more on the conservative side. No sure what that has to do with anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

My opposition has nothing to do with "poor brown kids" ... as all my kids are Black. LOL but thanks for playing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

My opposition has nothing to do with "poor brown kids" ... as all my kids are Black. LOL but thanks for playing.

Sure they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

My opposition has nothing to do with "poor brown kids" ... as all my kids are Black. LOL but thanks for playing.

Sure they are.

You dont believe my kids are black? okay. Because black parents don't care about their children going to good schools right?

[Anonymous]

Our oldest is at Hayfield Secondary and is thriving there. Will be taking AP courses, is in all-honors classes. Classrooms are clean and functional; no trailers. Overall, it's been a good experience so far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move
Go private

This is a troll response.


Send your kids to Lee. If you have faith in your parenting and your kids, they will do well. If not, I don't know what to tell you. FCPS provides solid resources for all of its schools.

We won't move but we would go private if TJ is not an option. Why is that a troll response?

Probably because no thought is put into it.

What is your specific issue with the school and have you experienced it first hand in any way?

Should FCPS just close Lee?

My biggest issue with Lee is that my child would be going to a school named after Robet E. Lee and the ugliness of WHY it is named after him.

The test scores are terrible and a family friend who went there recently decsribed it as an awful experience that he couldn't wait to get out of. Why do I need to have first hand experience to determine that it wouldn't be a good fit? Red flags everywhere. We have the resources to avoid it and will.

I have no allegiance to the name and don't really care if they rename it. In no way, however, should it be your biggest concern. The day to day impact of the name on students is nil. They are all Lancers. It does not impact student performance. I just don't hear students saying, "Darn, I would have done better in that class, but that damn Robert E. Lee!"

Test scores - I don't suppose you should be shocked that, in one of the poorest schools in the county with one of the highest ESL populations, that test scores won't be through the roof. Remember, however, that your student is an individual. I know a number of students, including my own children, who score quite well at Lee.

Based on your second paragraph, it doesn't seem as if the name is really your biggest concern. In other words, if they changed the name (your supposed biggest concern), it does not appear you would then be willing to send your kids to Lee. Let's face it, you say you have the means to avoid it and will, which is basically saying you can avoid the 'poors'. This just feeds the self-fulfilling cycle that Lee is trapped in as it gets poorer and poorer.

So, should they close Lee? Or do the surrounding schools want it to exist just so it can absorb the 'poors'?

I am curious, do you consider yourself more liberal or conservative. The vast majority of posters on this site seem to be liberal, but they don't live what they say.

The name "Robert E. Lee" means nothing to Black children? Okay. And the fact that it was named that in retaliation for Fairfax County being forced to desegregate? Okay.

And yes, the test scores are a major concern. My kid is in the AAP and needs to be challenged. How will that happen if the teachers are busy focusing on ESL and whatever else.

You are reaching with the "poors" nonsense so I wont even address it. I dont care what they do with Lee as it wont be my concern.

I am a liberal but probably more on the conservative side. No sure what that has to do with anything.

I said the name doesn't matter in the day to day lives or performance of the students - black, white, asian, hispanic, you name it. It is a non-factor. It just falls into the background for all Lancers. Go ahead and change it, it won't change the performance of the school and you still won't send your children there. You know what would change the school - not concentrating all of the poor folks there.

Test scores go directly with income and ESL, so your second and third points conflict. You are avoiding the 'poors'. No one said black people are above avoiding the "undesirables".

My point about liberals is they say they are all about the poor and downtrodden, until it might affect them personally, then they take off. Happens all over Fairfax County.

If you are so offended by the name as a black person, why did you buy a house in the Lee boundary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

My opposition has nothing to do with "poor brown kids" ... as all my kids are Black. LOL but thanks for playing.

Sure they are.

You dont believe my kids are black? okay. Because black parents don't care about their children going to good schools right?

Says the “liberal” person avoiding Lee...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move
Go private

This is a troll response.


Send your kids to Lee. If you have faith in your parenting and your kids, they will do well. If not, I don't know what to tell you. FCPS provides solid resources for all of its schools.

We won't move but we would go private if TJ is not an option. Why is that a troll response?

Probably because no thought is put into it.

What is your specific issue with the school and have you experienced it first hand in any way?

Should FCPS just close Lee?

My biggest issue with Lee is that my child would be going to a school named after Robet E. Lee and the ugliness of WHY it is named after him.

The test scores are terrible and a family friend who went there recently decsribed it as an awful experience that he couldn't wait to get out of. Why do I need to have first hand experience to determine that it wouldn't be a good fit? Red flags everywhere. We have the resources to avoid it and will.

I have no allegiance to the name and don't really care if they rename it. In no way, however, should it be your biggest concern. The day to day impact of the name on students is nil. They are all Lancers. It does not impact student performance. I just don't hear students saying, "Darn, I would have done better in that class, but that damn Robert E. Lee!"

Test scores - I don't suppose you should be shocked that, in one of the poorest schools in the county with one of the highest ESL populations, that test scores won't be through the roof. Remember, however, that your student is an individual. I know a number of students, including my own children, who score quite well at Lee.

Based on your second paragraph, it doesn't seem as if the name is really your biggest concern. In other words, if they changed the name (your supposed biggest concern), it does not appear you would then be willing to send your kids to Lee. Let's face it, you say you have the means to avoid it and will, which is basically saying you can avoid the 'poors'. This just feeds the self-fulfilling cycle that Lee is trapped in as it gets poorer and poorer.

So, should they close Lee? Or do the surrounding schools want it to exist just so it can absorb the 'poors'?

I am curious, do you consider yourself more liberal or conservative. The vast majority of posters on this site seem to be liberal, but they don't live what they say.

The name "Robert E. Lee" means nothing to Black children? Okay. And the fact that it was named that in retaliation for Fairfax County being forced to desegregate? Okay.

And yes, the test scores are a major concern. My kid is in the AAP and needs to be challenged. How will that happen if the teachers are busy focusing on ESL and whatever else.

You are reaching with the "poors" nonsense so I wont even address it. I dont care what they do with Lee as it wont be my concern.

I am a liberal but probably more on the conservative side. No sure what that has to do with anything.

I said the name doesn't matter in the day to day lives or performance of the students - black, white, asian, hispanic, you name it. It is a non-factor. It just falls into the background for all Lancers. Go ahead and change it, it won't change the performance of the school and you still won't send your children there. You know what would change the school - not concentrating all of the poor folks there.

Test scores go directly with income and ESL, so your second and third points conflict. You are avoiding the 'poors'. No one said black people are above avoiding the "undesirables".

My point about liberals is they say they are all about the poor and downtrodden, until it might affect them personally, then they take off. Happens all over Fairfax County.

If you are so offended by the name as a black person, why did you buy a house in the Lee boundary?

Why do you think you can speak for all children of all races -particularly for black children and how they can be impacted by the name? That's odd. If you think black kids cheering for Robert E. Lee say at a football game isn't screwed up, then I don't know what to tell you.

And I said the name was the biggest reason, not the only. Yes, there are multiple reasons why I won't send my kids there. I'm not sure why you are hung up on this point.

We bought our house because we loved it and literally the only negative against it was Lee High School. And since we have the means to avoid Lee High School, it wasn't enough to stop us from buying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious
“I’m very offended by the racist history of naming the school
After Robert E Lee... and also I don’t want my kids to go to school with poor brown kids”

My opposition has nothing to do with "poor brown kids" ... as all my kids are Black. LOL but thanks for playing.

Sure they are.

You dont believe my kids are black? okay. Because black parents don't care about their children going to good schools right?

Says the “liberal” person avoiding Lee...

Liberals don't want their kids to go to good schools? What is your point?

[Anonymous]

It's actually pretty funny that a liberal is trying to sweep the significance of the name Robert E Lee under the rug like it's NBD. In the words of VP Biden, it's a BFD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's actually pretty funny that a liberal is trying to sweep the significance of the name Robert E Lee under the rug like it's NBD. In the words of VP Biden, it's a BFD.

It’s actually hilarious that OP couldn’t figure out the name of her zoned high school before moving into her home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move
Go private

This is a troll response.


Send your kids to Lee. If you have faith in your parenting and your kids, they will do well. If not, I don't know what to tell you. FCPS provides solid resources for all of its schools.

We won't move but we would go private if TJ is not an option. Why is that a troll response?

Probably because no thought is put into it.

What is your specific issue with the school and have you experienced it first hand in any way?

Should FCPS just close Lee?

My biggest issue with Lee is that my child would be going to a school named after Robet E. Lee and the ugliness of WHY it is named after him.

The test scores are terrible and a family friend who went there recently decsribed it as an awful experience that he couldn't wait to get out of. Why do I need to have first hand experience to determine that it wouldn't be a good fit? Red flags everywhere. We have the resources to avoid it and will.

I have no allegiance to the name and don't really care if they rename it. In no way, however, should it be your biggest concern. The day to day impact of the name on students is nil. They are all Lancers. It does not impact student performance. I just don't hear students saying, "Darn, I would have done better in that class, but that damn Robert E. Lee!"

Test scores - I don't suppose you should be shocked that, in one of the poorest schools in the county with one of the highest ESL populations, that test scores won't be through the roof. Remember, however, that your student is an individual. I know a number of students, including my own children, who score quite well at Lee.

Based on your second paragraph, it doesn't seem as if the name is really your biggest concern. In other words, if they changed the name (your supposed biggest concern), it does not appear you would then be willing to send your kids to Lee. Let's face it, you say you have the means to avoid it and will, which is basically saying you can avoid the 'poors'. This just feeds the self-fulfilling cycle that Lee is trapped in as it gets poorer and poorer.

So, should they close Lee? Or do the surrounding schools want it to exist just so it can absorb the 'poors'?

I am curious, do you consider yourself more liberal or conservative. The vast majority of posters on this site seem to be liberal, but they don't live what they say.

The name "Robert E. Lee" means nothing to Black children? Okay. And the fact that it was named that in retaliation for Fairfax County being forced to desegregate? Okay.

And yes, the test scores are a major concern. My kid is in the AAP and needs to be challenged. How will that happen if the teachers are busy focusing on ESL and whatever else.

You are reaching with the "poors" nonsense so I wont even address it. I dont care what they do with Lee as it wont be my concern.

I am a liberal but probably more on the conservative side. No sure what that has to do with anything.

I said the name doesn't matter in the day to day lives or performance of the students - black, white, asian, hispanic, you name it. It is a non-factor. It just falls into the background for all Lancers. Go ahead and change it, it won't change the performance of the school and you still won't send your children there. You know what would change the school - not concentrating all of the poor folks there.

Test scores go directly with income and ESL, so your second and third points conflict. You are avoiding the 'poors'. No one said black people are above avoiding the "undesirables".

My point about liberals is they say they are all about the poor and downtrodden, until it might affect them personally, then they take off. Happens all over Fairfax County.

If you are so offended by the name as a black person, why did you buy a house in the Lee boundary?

Why do you think you can speak for all children of all races -particularly for black children and how they can be impacted by the name? That's odd. If you think black kids cheering for Robert E. Lee say at a football game isn't screwed up, then I don't know what to tell you.

And I said the name was the biggest reason, not the only. Yes, there are multiple reasons why I won't send my kids there. I'm not sure why you are hung up on this point.

We bought our house because we loved it and literally the only negative against it was Lee High School. And since we have the means to avoid Lee High School, it wasn't enough to stop us from buying.

I can't say no one is offended, but I can say that it does not affect the students day to day like you think it might. Minority students do well at Lee despite the name. They participate in the sports, band, drama, and cheer for the teams (the Lancers). And like I said, no one is running around saying, "Gee, my SAT scores would have been better but the name of the school was just killing me." Honestly, adults make way too much of this issue. Go ahead and change the name. It won't make a damn bit of difference if all the poor kids in Springfield are zoned for it.

I focused on the name because that is what you claimed your biggest issue was. But I know that is not why you won't send your kids there. It is just an excuse. You think your kids is too good for Lee. This leads to a cycle where more and more high-achieving students do not attend Lee, thus reinforcing the problem. So you are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

So right back to move or go private!