Elizabeth Holmes, CEO of Theranos, finally charged

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I don't really get it, either, but honestly I think a lot of people love "bold thinkers" with "big ideas." That's probably going to be her defense strategy in court: she didn't commit a fraud, she's just a genius who had a big idea that didn't pan out, and Big Pharma/The Government/"Society" just don't get it and are jealous. This dude essentially fell for the personal version of that story.

And anyways, white collar crime sentences aren't that heavy, she'll be out in a couple of years if convicted.

She'll get at least 10. She had a baby to delay the trial, she's quite the sociopath.

Remember Enron....

Speaking of Enron, did you know her father was an Enron VP?

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book Theranos and I’m just shocked that they existed well funded for like 8 years? For 8 years they kept getting funded? Are people just dump?

They engaged in creative ways to defraud their investors. She's going to be doing a lot of time either way.

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I don't really get it, either, but honestly I think a lot of people love "bold thinkers" with "big ideas." That's probably going to be her defense strategy in court: she didn't commit a fraud, she's just a genius who had a big idea that didn't pan out, and Big Pharma/The Government/"Society" just don't get it and are jealous. This dude essentially fell for the personal version of that story.

And anyways, white collar crime sentences aren't that heavy, she'll be out in a couple of years if convicted.

She'll get at least 10. She had a baby to delay the trial, she's quite the sociopath.

Remember Enron....

Speaking of Enron, did you know her father was an Enron VP?

NO, LOL! I guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree!@

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I don't really get it, either, but honestly I think a lot of people love "bold thinkers" with "big ideas." That's probably going to be her defense strategy in court: she didn't commit a fraud, she's just a genius who had a big idea that didn't pan out, and Big Pharma/The Government/"Society" just don't get it and are jealous. This dude essentially fell for the personal version of that story.

And anyways, white collar crime sentences aren't that heavy, she'll be out in a couple of years if convicted.

She'll get at least 10. She had a baby to delay the trial, she's quite the sociopath.

Remember Enron....

Speaking of Enron, did you know her father was an Enron VP?

NO, LOL! I guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree!@

That whole family of grifters should be ashamed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this broad in prison yet? How can she not have gone to jail for basically defrauding a ton of investors and customers?

Nope. She’s out. And since 2018 she’s gotten married and also just had a baby.

And she married rich! Her husband's family is mega rich.

I will never understand knowing what he knows about her why the husband jumped into a marriage with her?

Nuts, college dropout, tens of millions in legal fees, and facing jail-time. What about that said 'yes perfect spouse and mother'?

I don't really get it, either, but honestly I think a lot of people love "bold thinkers" with "big ideas." That's probably going to be her defense strategy in court: she didn't commit a fraud, she's just a genius who had a big idea that didn't pan out, and Big Pharma/The Government/"Society" just don't get it and are jealous. This dude essentially fell for the personal version of that story.

And anyways, white collar crime sentences aren't that heavy, she'll be out in a couple of years if convicted.

She'll get at least 10. She had a baby to delay the trial, she's quite the sociopath.

Remember Enron....

She will get home detention if anything. Otherwise, the baby grows up without a mother.

Who cares? There are babies born in prison every day. He'll raise it as a single father for five years and move on.

No to pretty young blonde white women.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this broad in prison yet? How can she not have gone to jail for basically defrauding a ton of investors and customers?

Nope. She’s out. And since 2018 she’s gotten married and also just had a baby.

And she married rich! Her husband's family is mega rich.

I will never understand knowing what he knows about her why the husband jumped into a marriage with her?

Nuts, college dropout, tens of millions in legal fees, and facing jail-time. What about that said 'yes perfect spouse and mother'?

I don't really get it, either, but honestly I think a lot of people love "bold thinkers" with "big ideas." That's probably going to be her defense strategy in court: she didn't commit a fraud, she's just a genius who had a big idea that didn't pan out, and Big Pharma/The Government/"Society" just don't get it and are jealous. This dude essentially fell for the personal version of that story.

And anyways, white collar crime sentences aren't that heavy, she'll be out in a couple of years if convicted.

She'll get at least 10. She had a baby to delay the trial, she's quite the sociopath.

Remember Enron....

She will get home detention if anything. Otherwise, the baby grows up without a mother.

Who cares? There are babies born in prison every day. He'll raise it as a single father for five years and move on.

No to pretty young blonde white women.

I guess she'll be the first in history. /s

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a research biologist who so wanted her technology to work, it could have revolutionized medical care and jump-started so much research.

I told my husband one day, who has a lot more experience with clinical research than I do - he took one look at the original New Yorker article that explained her start-up in detail, snorted his coffee out of his nose, and told me there was no way in hell it would ever work.

I got so mad. We had an argument about it.

And now look who's right. Grr. I hate it when he's right

Ask him why so many people were fooled - including the actual scientists she had working for her company. Or did they just not care?

She had people working for her who said it wouldn't work. But you couldn't tell her anything because she knew more than the experts.

It wasn't just that you couldn't tell her anything. She had security who would go after/sue/threaten/intimidate employees. It got to a point that they were spying on their own employees. She knew it all was a lie, she just didn't want it to get out.

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Anonymous wrote:Love the npr podcast series on her: “The Dropout”

I loved this too; a really great listen. (It was ABC rather than NPR though.)

Highly recommend The Dropout to anyone interested in the story. I thought it much better than the HBO doc .

Read Bad Blood instead. Greater depth.

She should be in jail. For a long time. She isn’t just a fraud, she put people’s lives at risk.

This. She knew the tests, when deployed, were dangerously useless and aggressively stopped anyone from reporting the problems.

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I remember a very long thread here when criticisms were bubbling up about her company. Most of us posting felt pretty certain sexism was the root of those criticisms. I learned about the whole thing here and on first reading was certain "the man" was out to get her. Most people believed that when it first started to blow up.

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I am beyond bummed this isn’t being televised/ live streamed. What’s the best source for really good coverage? Like, a source who knows their law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember a very long thread here when criticisms were bubbling up about her company. Most of us posting felt pretty certain sexism was the root of those criticisms. I learned about the whole thing here and on first reading was certain "the man" was out to get her. Most people believed that when it first started to blow up.

Yup, I linked the original thread a couple pages back.

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Anonymous wrote:They met/started dating in 2018. Theranos went tits-up in 2017. Although that has interesting implications for her trial. So...

And his parents were not a fan -

Evans' parents are reportedly "flabbergasted" at their son's decision to marry Holmes, the Post reports. A former colleague of Evans' said: “It’s kind of like Billy is her shiny new toy. She’s super enthusiastic about being with him."

This is her with her brother at a Obama event in 2015.

She’s horrible but her brother is FINE! Anything wrong with him?

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Anonymous wrote:They met/started dating in 2018. Theranos went tits-up in 2017. Although that has interesting implications for her trial. So...

And his parents were not a fan -

Evans' parents are reportedly "flabbergasted" at their son's decision to marry Holmes, the Post reports. A former colleague of Evans' said: “It’s kind of like Billy is her shiny new toy. She’s super enthusiastic about being with him."

This is her with her brother at a Obama event in 2015.

She’s horrible but her brother is FINE! Anything wrong with him?

He was the product management director at Theranos

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Anonymous wrote:I remember the original New Yorker article (when she was a star) and when I read about the WSJ reporter investigation, but I', listening to The Dropout for the first time.

I did not know that people had received incorrect test results--I thought they were always just having other labs do the Walgreen tests.

Why did Walgreens not get suspicious when they had to use phlebotomists?

Given the company's paranoia + hype, when they bought test equipment from other vendors, how did they keep that secret?

Check out the original thread on her - hilarious in retrospect: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/405456.page

Someone on DCUM called her out as a fraud in that thread - in 2014! It’s on page 4.

The hilarious thing is someone on DCUM called them out for correctly assessing that this is the most fraudelent company in history

I came in to say this.... The whole platform is suspect and they haven't released any data to be publically scrutinized. They are running LDTs which do not have to go through FDA clearance. You can have all the patents you want but let's see if the have a viable product.

The idea that one can do 30 assays from 25 uL of whole blood is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

+100 it is moments like these that keep me coming back to DCUM. Some of you all really are smart and educated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They met/started dating in 2018. Theranos went tits-up in 2017. Although that has interesting implications for her trial. So...

And his parents were not a fan -

Evans' parents are reportedly "flabbergasted" at their son's decision to marry Holmes, the Post reports. A former colleague of Evans' said: “It’s kind of like Billy is her shiny new toy. She’s super enthusiastic about being with him."

This is her with her brother at a Obama event in 2015.

She’s horrible but her brother is FINE! Anything wrong with him?

He was the product management director at Theranos

Ouch. Well...maybe he landed on his feet.