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Anonymous
Let me tell you the irony of having boys say homosexuality is gross and disgusting and against the Bible out loud at school when there’s a good chance that at least one or two or more of their classmates will end up being gay someday. Tell me how that positively contributes to the classroom or to the school community? |
Anonymous
Person of color here. Most of us know through experience that an all-white jury is not going to return an objective verdict on a person of color. If you want the statistics on institutionalized racism, start there. |
Anonymous
And when is the last time you have actually viewed someone as "thinking conservative?" Does anyone actually receive the august imprimatur of acceptance from you? For far too many, it seems that any conservative viewpoint is simply dismissed out of hand, or "bigotry" is extended to absurd lengths to cover anything that you happen not to agree with. |
Anonymous
This is an interesting point you raise. The other top schools in DC (GDS, Sidwell) have clearly crafted student bodies made almost entirely of Trump-supporting moderate families. They seem to think it's an okay demographic to foster. And again, it's the STA families in this thread who have repeatedly connected a rise in intolerant behavior to a rise in conservative Trump supporters. |
Anonymous
Oops-- omitted a "none" This is an interesting point you raise. The other top schools in DC (GDS, Sidwell) have clearly crafted student bodies made almost entirely of none Trump-supporting moderate families. They seem to think it's an okay demographic to foster. And again, it's the STA families in this thread who have repeatedly connected a rise in intolerant behavior to a rise in conservative Trump supporters. |
Anonymous
Of course, it could be that STA is welcoming to all and the other schools you mention are not. Perhaps your own world view is less than tolerant but not in a way to can comprehend. You missed the point. An Episcopalian school should not be welcoming to bigots, racists, xenophobes, homophobes, and their ilk. It’s called taking a moral stand. |
Anonymous
There are plenty of never-Trump conservative Republicans out there. I disagree pretty much 100% on policy with these folks but would completely welcome them as part of any diverse school community. |
Anonymous
So I have to defend every sophomoric comment made by teenage boys? Do I have to defend that girls have cuties? Your response isn't really a response at all. But let's have a serious example. What about a boy or family who believes homosexuality is a sin? Should they be excluded? I don't believe that, but I wouldn't want to be an environment where people with more traditional views were necessarily excluded. (I would expect them to express those views respectfully, but the views themselves should not be disqualifying.) |
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Folks, please remember that this is a schools forum. If you want to discuss politics, please visit our Political Discussion Forum. The diversion to Trump-supporting families is premature, if not completely off-base, given that the anti-Semitic incidents that are the topic of this thread have not been authoritatively linked (to my knowledge, anyway) to Trump-supporting families.
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Anonymous
Heck no. I can't think of anywhere local that would take them, given the circumstances. |
Anonymous
Do you think -- and I believe that this question merits careful consideration and contemplation -- that STA has yet fostered an environment wherein its boys and young men feel comfortable being openly LGBTQQ? One would expect, in an all-boys prep school, that the percentage of LGBTQQ representation would somewhat approximate (though, of course, it will be lower) that of the general population. But I wonder if it does? And pointing to two or three young men as examples suggests that it probably does not, in which case STA (and the same could be said of NCS) has some work to do on this front. I am sure we can all think of examples of homophobic comments or slights, at all schools not just STA. |
Anonymous
But it's not all white - 20% of the admissions staff is African American. Also, if we're talking about diversity, 40% of the admissions staff is female. I would also point out that the admissions staff has no Latinos or Asians or Native Americans. When the staff is only 5 people, I'm not sure what the expectations should be here. And considering Beauvoir comprises about 30-35% of any given class, perhaps we should look at the diversity of the Beauvoir admissions staff. I'm a person of color and I just think the point being made is a lazy one that assumes its conclusion without providing any evidence and then ties that conclusion to a simple cause and effect. If STA has a diversity problem (as a parent, I think it does in underrepresented Latinos in the student body as well as a lack of non-white faculty), then discovering the actual cause of the problem is more important then making some knee jerk assumption. If they suddenly hired another person of color on the admissions staff to bring that number to 40%, are you positive it would make a difference? |
Anonymous
People are speculating in this thread. No one has provided factual evidence that there are more Trump supporting families and that this increase in Trump supporting families has led to an increase in intolerant behavior. People speculate that way because it means they don't have to consider that their "nice" boys and the "nice" friends of their boys might do or say something completely unacceptable. It's easier to speculate that some horrible other group must have done it, those jerks! I know a child in a competitive, liberal-leaning private school who made a racist remark to another child and was punished for it. This child comes from a lovely, liberal family. Involved parents, caring, compassionate people. Yet, even the child of loving, caring, involved, liberal parents can make a horrible mistake. This is hearsay - I could be lying. And you're more likely to dismiss it because it doesn't fit with your narrative. But it's important for me to know, since it helps make sure I don't gloss over where my own children can and have done wrong as if somehow being "the right sort of people" protects us from ever doing anything wrong. |
Anonymous
We love STA and share concerns out of that love for the school because it seems based on what I’m reading on here and a few other threads, some boys are not upholding the schools’ values outlined in the handbook And it’s poisoning their grade environment. This is not the STA we know and it’s OK to be concerned and express it on here, as this is where I found out about the incident. It’s still a great school and most of the families are really nice. |
Anonymous
Why does PP have to be positive that it would make a difference? Companies, organizations, etc. make hiring decisions all the time without concrete proof of how prospective employees will do their jobs. But they play the odds based on circumstantial evidence, like resumes and job interviews. With that in mind, I don't think it's a stretch to think that the odds of a more diverse student body at a private school would be higher with a more diverse admissions office. |