My child's name in on a KILL list

[Anonymous]

Thank you, PP. Another APS parent here and I was trying to figure out what to do. I will also send this to our SRO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School called us yesterday evening.
I find it hard to believe a 9 yo would have access to a gun. Possible but not probable. But you are right, I do not know for sure. I believe the school thinks it is serious enough and they are investigating. Remember, this info is obtained from 9 yo kids. He said/she said. I felt comfortable enough to send my kid to school today. As did the other parent I am in contact with. [b]We googled his parents and they seem responsible enough (hold respectable high executive position in major govt dept). I really want to give the school a chance to handle it.[/b]

OP, I assume this is you. Thank you for the update. But those two points above are ...GAHHH, I don't know what to say. Kids who want to get their hands on guns kept in the home will FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. Kids are much smarter than we give them credit for being when it comes to stuff like that. And what kind of assumptions are you making about the parents that they are responsible gun owners? Have you SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS? And finally, I simply do not understand where you're coming from re: "giving the school a chance to handle this" -- you are still doing that even if you contact that police yourself. I think it's called due diligence? Your child's name is on a freaking KILL LIST! The school can work it out their way, and as a concerned parent (which I assume you are?) you can work it out your way. Also, IT'S NOT JUST YOUR KID AT RISK. Again, this is a public health issue. There are hundreds of other kids at the same school with your kid, and this other kid who has a list of kids he WANTS TO KILL. Do you really want to see APS as the next Sandy Hook? Look, I get not freaking out about every little thing that goes on at with our kids at school, but honestly, if ever there was a time to freak out THIS MIGHT BE IT.

Signed,
Fellow APS parent who is really not at all pleased with this situation and the way OP is handing it

Seriously, this^^^^^^^.

I don't know what you mean by "handling it," but if they aren't involving the SRO and/or ACPD, then they aren't handling it. There is no way YOU can know whether kid has access to a gun based on a google search. Literally anyone could have a gun in their home, and plenty of otherwise reasonable/responsible people make mistakes about properly storing weapons. It may not even be in their home. What if grandparents or aunt/uncle lives nearby and keep guns that the child might access, that they consider "theirs"? I'm hoping the child is just making idle threats and has no such access, but I think it's up to a LEO to determine whether this threat is real. The only thing that would reflect poorly on the school is not taking all threats of gun violence seriously. Can you confirm that the school has involved, at the very least, the SRO?

[Anonymous]

Dylan Kleibolds parents were very responsible and Eric Harris father was military. Think about that OP.

Those murdering psychopaths came from great families.

OP, you are complicit if anything happens. Or if you are making this up you are just evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Got a phone call from the administrator that DD was indirectly involved in some incidents in school w.r.t. name calling and meanness. The official needed our (the parents) help to get more info out of my child (after the school attempts didn't bear much fruit I guess).

I learned from my child that her name and several other girls are on a certain boy's "Kill List". I have told the school everything I know. They are aware of the Kill List and are investigating. The kids are 4th grade. This is APSVA. My prior experience is that school policy is to maintain anonymity and they won't discuss anything that doesn't relate directly to your own child. The school has spoken to only 3 of the kids whose names are on the Kill List. However, I know some of the other parents whose kids names are on the list but have not been contacted. Should I just remain quiet ? The boy has said he wants to bring his gun to school.

Also, other than letting the school handle this, there's not much else I can or should do right? I do not know the boy's parents.

Call the police. Don't let a school sit on this.

[Anonymous]

You don't know what the school has done.

[Anonymous]

To the contrary, I think there are a lot of parents who want to believe there is "no way" a 9yo could get his hands on a gun and inflict violence willingly on other children, that having a "kill list" is just "boys being boys" and that it's not for parents to intervene with a school's procedures. Which is how threats go undetected and unreported until the unthinkable happens. If there is ever a choice between overreacting and ignoring a possible empty threat of gun violence and, where would you land? In America in 2017, how is that even a question?

I hope every APS parent who has read this thread today has reached out to their School Resource Officer about this. It's on all of us to keep our kids safe. Wouldn't you rather overreact than have the rest of the country send us their thoughts and prayers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hell, let's say her kid IS a mean bully. When she and other children are shot by an upset kid, they become victims. Irregardless of what prompted it, if a child is talking about bringing a gun to school, the police should be notified immediately. The school and parents can all sort out the behavior, but absolutely many more kids than just this group of boys and girls could be impacted.

1) You make a good point.

2) "Irregardless" is incorrect usage. Regardless is the correct word to use here.

[Anonymous]

call the police now. my child would not be going back there until the police investigated

[Anonymous]

I think I know what school this is. Lots of wealth and lots of problems with mean kids.

[Anonymous]

OP, You need to name the school. Your reluctance seems very suspicious.

[Anonymous]

OP - Please name the school. Other parents at the same school have a right to know.

[Anonymous]

Is this for real? I would have presumed that the OP was a troll but the scariest part is the series of early responses from others DCUMs accusing her child of being a bully instead of focusing on the real takeaway here: this is not an issue for DCUM to work out.

Any threat involving firearms needs to be addressed by law enforcement. If the school isn't involving the police, it's shocking - and you need to ensure that they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I know what school this is. Lots of wealth and lots of problems with mean kids.

Jamestown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? I would have presumed that the OP was a troll but the scariest part is the series of early responses from others DCUMs accusing her child of being a bully instead of focusing on the real takeaway here: this is not an issue for DCUM to work out.

Any threat involving firearms needs to be addressed by law enforcement. If the school isn't involving the police, it's shocking - and you need to ensure that they do.

Typical DCUM bitches

[Anonymous]

The immediate threat has been neutralized. The boy's parents have been informed. If they had a gun, they'd keep it secured given the situation. As for his mental state, that's anyones guess.