Teen accused of stealing 65-cent carton of milk at middle school to face trial

Anonymous
Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
He did nothing whatsoever that was illegal or otherwise wrong. He should not bear the burden of proving a negative. I hope he is not convicted, and that he then sues the living hell out of everyone involved.


Stealing is wrong.

He said he had forgotten his milk--however, we do not know that for sure.

DS told me that he's seen kids go steal food.




I've been in school my entire life--as a student and a teacher. In wealthy areas, middle class, and poor. I've seen a lot of things, but I've never seen kids steal school lunches. And I've never even heard of a kid stealing milk. And if one did, I don't understand why an adult would begrudge him/her, especially with some of the sugar-filled crap I've seen kids drinking over the years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Race may be the most important factor here. The child is black, the principal is black, the police officer is black.

As a white woman, I can criticize and tell them all that they're doing it wrong, that they're acting through a lens of institutional racism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous waste of money. I can imagine the kid, not thinking how his actions would look to someone else, just popping back to get his milk because he forgot it. To him, it's fine because he's been through the line already. To an adult not aware of the situation in the kid's own head, it would be stealing. Said person would be upset and let the kid have it, in front of his peers. Kid, not wanting to lose face, would stand up to the adult because after all, he hadn't done anything wrong. Adult would get even more angry and demand the student go to the principal's office. Kid would become more stubborn and indignant. More people would be brought it and gradually the whole thing devolves into an out of control pissing contest that is wasting money and time.

It's kind of sad that there seems to be no normal, rational, and mature adult involved in any of this.


+1 This case is an embarrassment. Why would any rational prosecutor spend taxpayer $ on a kid taking a 65 cent carton of milk that was part of his free lunch?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Race may be the most important factor here. The child is black, the principal is black, the police officer is black.

As a white woman, I can criticize and tell them all that they're doing it wrong, that they're acting through a lens of institutional racism.



Didn't realize they were all black. Even worse but the position stands: They would've never treated a white kid this way.

I doubt the DA is black. That's the one who agreed to take it to court.
Anonymous
I'm going to go hand out milk boxes at the hearing and/or next school board meeting. Ridiculous.

A few dickwads want to be all tough and take on some poor kid just because they can. Hope they all get fired.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go hand out milk boxes at the hearing and/or next school board meeting. Ridiculous.

A few dickwads want to be all tough and take on some poor kid just because they can. Hope they all get fired.


Do you live in Prince William County? I have friends who moved to Fairfax or Alexandria to get away from the schools in PWC.
Anonymous
I don't think this case if over the milk. It is over the way the child and his mother reacted to the incident.

And, FWIW, the school system really cannot reply too much in public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I assume there is more to the story and the kid's behavior wanrrented this.


WTF is wrong with schools? Why was detention not an option if the school was so convinced the child was in the wrong?



They tried and the kid didn't accept it. Thus the escalation. Please keep up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Yeah, no one jumps to conclusions about white male athletes and sexual assault. That never happens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Yeah, no one jumps to conclusions about white male athletes and sexual assault. That never happens.


Got damn...you wanna talk about jumps/leaps how the hell you get to sexual assault?
We talking about milk here dude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Race may be the most important factor here. The child is black, the principal is black, the police officer is black.

As a white woman, I can criticize and tell them all that they're doing it wrong, that they're acting through a lens of institutional racism.



Didn't realize they were all black. Even worse but the position stands: They would've never treated a white kid this way.

I doubt the DA is black. That's the one who agreed to take it to court.


I don't get it - if they were white you'd be calling them all racist, but if they are black is doesn't matter so long as you can find one white person in the mix to blame? Is this where you switch to the whole systemic oppression meme?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Yeah, no one jumps to conclusions about white male athletes and sexual assault. That never happens.


Got damn...you wanna talk about jumps/leaps how the hell you get to sexual assault?
We talking about milk here dude.


PP said white boys are never profiled. I was pointed out that he/she is incorrect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, this whole thing is just wrong.

It's not at all uncommon for kids to cut in the line to grab something they forgot. I've done it a few times myself both as a student (yes, I remember forgetting my milk once or twice) and as an adult (teacher who forgot my fruit a few times). I've never heard of it being blown out of proportion in this way. Then again, it is Prince William County Schools which are not known for being the most liberal schools with the best leaders.

Even if the kid was being an argumentative pain in the ass, it shouldn't have escalated to the level of criminal proceedings. As adults, it's up to us to have the perspective and wisdom kids do not. Address his insubordination through the school's disciplinary system. Don't criminalize the kid because you didn't like his attitude.

Poor decision making on the part of the 'adults' in this matter.


This.

And no matter what DCUM has to say about it, this child was criminalized because he was black. This does not happen to white boys.


Race may be the most important factor here. The child is black, the principal is black, the police officer is black.

As a white woman, I can criticize and tell them all that they're doing it wrong, that they're acting through a lens of institutional racism.



Didn't realize they were all black. Even worse but the position stands: They would've never treated a white kid this way.

I doubt the DA is black. That's the one who agreed to take it to court.


I don't get it - if they were white you'd be calling them all racist, but if they are black is doesn't matter so long as you can find one white person in the mix to blame? Is this where you switch to the whole systemic oppression meme?


Great reading strategy! Just read part of the statement. Stop when you can feel inailed & self-righteous. Not!

Clearly the rest of the statement acknowledges that Blscks can AND DO discriminate against each other. They wouldn't have done it to a white kid. Period.
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