So basically anything that is not WASPY is tacky?

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Anonymous wrote:Well what have WASPs done lately, beyond giving us Donald Trump for president and a ton of anti-immigration rhetoric and anger at their falling status.

DCUM - the WASPs' last gasp.

Donald 'Drumpf' Trump is definitely not a WASP.

Trump isn't really a wasp because a true Anglo Saxon wasp is episcopalian.

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day it's all about how much money is in the bank account, where your kids go to college, their careers, who your kids marry.

Nobody gives a sh-t about your decorum if you don't have a pot to p-ss in and your kids are slackers - while you think you're fooling anyone with a dumpy house and old Volvos because you have no work ethic.

I don't think WASP has meant much for 20 years. Silicon Valley billionaires, Hollywood and Wall St Jews, oil & gas, and the military industrial complex runs the world. WASP seems to mostly mean middle class wannabes who think they look classy in pastel Vineyard Vines and Brooks Brothers blazers, who are too dumb for an Ivy or Duke (????), so they end up at some second tier private college.

I will bet everything I own that this pp went to Duke.

Ha, +1.

Ha ha. Dook sucks

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Anonymous wrote:Antibiotics--Fleming, likely WASP. But wife from Country Mayo in Ireland so maybe Catholic and not WASP.

The steam engine--Watt, WASP.

Electricity--Much stuff going back to ancient Middle East. Many post-enlightenment contributors, many Catholic. Some consider Tesla the true father of electricity--Serbian Orthodox, not WASP.

The light bulb--Edison (some dispute)--WASP.

The printing press--Gutenberg, Catholic, no Anglo, not WASP.

Automobiles--de Rivaz--French, Catholic not WASP

Bicycles--Drais, German--can't find religion but with no Anglo, not WASP

You get the idea.

You are correct. They are not all WASPS. That are just all white.

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Anonymous wrote:WASP seems to mostly mean middle class wannabes who think they look classy in pastel Vineyard Vines and Brooks Brothers blazers, who are too dumb for an Ivy or Duke, so they end up at some second tier private college.

No, being called a "WASP" or having people think they're "upper-klass" is what these wannabes want. Perception is reality or something like that. They're the antithesis of WASP's traditional definition of "high-status and influential White Americans of English Protestant ancestry. The term applies to a group who control disproportionate financial, political and social power in the United States," even if they are Protestant and have English ancestors.

It's all an illusion. "They" control very little anymore — except perhaps the Maidstone Golf Club.

Correct. There are some hanging on for dwarf life, but it's not the party it used to be.... Money is gone and society has changed. If the money is not gone now, it will be soon.

I guess y'all didn't make it to Some of the high end getaways this summer. Still lots of blond, lots of money and lots of conn, ny, DC, east coast old school types living in or renting extremely expensive places. The difference between now and the "old days" is that Mrs. Wasp also went to a good undergrad and then a quality grad school. There are surely new entrants that didn't get a shot before but you are nuts if you think that the contents of the upper crust have changed that much.

Actually, you don't get it. The point is that in the past they did not rent anything. They owned significant land and ran the place.

Now it is far far far more diverse and mostly new wealth.

It's wasp renting to wasps so it's not a huge difference...of course, relative to 1850-1950, there have been major advances in the position of non-wasps but, of the 20 richest Americans, 12 are pretty much wasp, or wasp families. Of the world largest 35 charitable foundations, 15 are straight u.s.a wasp and a bunch more are old line Brits

Any one in the private wealth space or who works with family offices gets the ongoing force of wasp money. They may not be where they once were but they still dominate. It's naive to think a few tech types at the top have changed the rest of the pecking order that much.