Olympics behavior

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree, OP.

The etiquette is spelled out in Title 36 Subtitle 1, Para. 301 of the US Code:

(a)Designation.—The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe all of this talk about Gabby and no one is talking about Phelps' finger wag or King's refusal to look at Efimova during a news conference after her win. Talk about poor sportsmanship. Plus, you guys are acting like you were there with Gabby. At the point when the camera was on her, she wasn't jumping up and down and screaming. You have no idea what went on outside of that.

+1. I think the American athletes in general show pretty poor sportsmanship, particularly when they win, which should be the easiest time to be gracious. King was pretty quick to jump to self-righteous judgment without perhaps knowing all of the facts.

Ugh, that Lilly King just grated on me. Young, dumb, and graceless.

Sorry, that was most of us at 19.

[Anonymous]

Where is all of the outrage at the shot putters not putting their hands over their hearts? Oh, that's right - there is none.

[Anonymous]

I really don't understand the hatred toward Gabby, but someone did a great article contrasting how we treat white male athletes vs. black females. A lot of "give the kid a break" for 32 year old Ryan, who humiliated us and was a horrible distraction, vs. being horrified of what 20 year old Gabby did.

There was no one who was more excited about the women's gymnastics than me. If the camera had panned on me in my living room, they may have caught me sobbing, jumping up and down, or in another moment, texting my husband updates as he was out of town for the AA night. Or - gasp - running into the kitchen for a snack or water.

I think the cameras caught Gabby not standing - but she was there - she was clapping - she was just not as vocal as her teammates. I don't see why she had to apologize for that. It would be one thing if she didn't bother to show up, but she did, and she was clapping.

I don't think Gabby was salty about losing the AA or not getting to compete. It was clear Simone was going to win. She was very upset for not delivering a better bar performance, but she has had tremendous pressure and a crazy amount of bullying. She is basically supporting her family on her gymnastics winnings and endorsements. She is closer to her family then the other girls - and there was a lot of bullying in 2012 (there is a video of Jordyn, Aly, etc. making fun of her and blowing fake kisses - and I love Aly so I blame immaturity) but it seems like the team pulled together and support each other.

[Anonymous]

Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

No where in my post did I say that Gabby was closer her family than the other girls. I just meant, Gabby seems to pal around more with her family (per her instagram, etc.) vs. the other girls who may be closer to each other. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think Gabby is a bit more introverted and tends to be with her family whereas some of the other girls are closer with their teammates.

Read some of the media about Lochte and how it is being framed! MANY are criticizing some of the "boys will be boys" coverage.

It is a shame how Gabby how is being treated, but not surprising sadly. If you can't the racism and sexism in this Olympics and the way some of the reporting went down, I can't help you.

[Anonymous]

Correction: "If you can't the SEE racism and sexism in this Olympics...."

should say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

No where in my post did I say that Gabby was closer her family than the other girls. I just meant, Gabby seems to pal around more with her family (per her instagram, etc.) vs. the other girls who may be closer to each other. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think Gabby is a bit more introverted and tends to be with her family whereas some of the other girls are closer with their teammates.

Read some of the media about Lochte and how it is being framed! MANY are criticizing some of the "boys will be boys" coverage.

It is a shame how Gabby how is being treated, but not surprising sadly. If you can't the racism and sexism in this Olympics and the way some of the reporting went down, I can't help you.

I don't see it. I don't go looking for it, but it definitely was not obvious to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

No where in my post did I say that Gabby was closer her family than the other girls. I just meant, Gabby seems to pal around more with her family (per her instagram, etc.) vs. the other girls who may be closer to each other. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think Gabby is a bit more introverted and tends to be with her family whereas some of the other girls are closer with their teammates.

Read some of the media about Lochte and how it is being framed! MANY are criticizing some of the "boys will be boys" coverage.

It is a shame how Gabby how is being treated, but not surprising sadly. If you can't the racism and sexism in this Olympics and the way some of the reporting went down, I can't help you.

I don't see it. I don't go looking for it, but it definitely was not obvious to me

Case in point - both shotputters stood at attention for the national anthem. No one cared. Gabby was raked over the coals for being unpatriotic for standing at attention. Why the difference in how the athletes were treated?

[Anonymous]

No comment on the pole vaulter who stopped mid-run when he heard our national anthem played and put the pole down faced the flag? He then jumped 19 feet!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

No where in my post did I say that Gabby was closer her family than the other girls. I just meant, Gabby seems to pal around more with her family (per her instagram, etc.) vs. the other girls who may be closer to each other. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think Gabby is a bit more introverted and tends to be with her family whereas some of the other girls are closer with their teammates.

Read some of the media about Lochte and how it is being framed! MANY are criticizing some of the "boys will be boys" coverage.

It is a shame how Gabby how is being treated, but not surprising sadly. If you can't the racism and sexism in this Olympics and the way some of the reporting went down, I can't help you.

I don't see it. I don't go looking for it, but it definitely was not obvious to me

Case in point - both shotputters stood at attention for the national anthem. No one cared. Gabby was raked over the coals for being unpatriotic for standing at attention. Why the difference in how the athletes were treated?

Maybe you should ask the seven people who were watching the shot put award ceremony. Gabby is a public figure, she gets a lot of benefit for that - she also has to deal with more eyeballs and scrutiny.


The fact that you don't know the names of the shot put winners says all you need to know. I don't know if they are black, brown, white, or even if they are Americans.

Apples and oranges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how you know that Gabby is closer to her family than the other girls. Didn't seem so with Ally for instance.


Also, I am really not sure how you think Lochte is being cut any slack. He is being deservedly crushed in the media and his career is likely over. Paying a much, much heavier price than Gabby and again, deservedly so.

Gabby is getting criticism, Lochte is going to get punishment. I personally didn't think Gabby looked very happy to be at the AA finals - so what, or at the gold medal ceremony for the team - again, so what.

As for supporting her family, everyone feels pressure - Olympics are supposed to be a feel good event and people are used to seeing their gymnasts with a smile on their face when things are going well. Doesn't mean she has to, just means that when she doesn't it sticks out and you leave yourself open to criticism.

Lochte was the best thing that could have happened for Gabby, frankly.

No where in my post did I say that Gabby was closer her family than the other girls. I just meant, Gabby seems to pal around more with her family (per her instagram, etc.) vs. the other girls who may be closer to each other. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think Gabby is a bit more introverted and tends to be with her family whereas some of the other girls are closer with their teammates.

Read some of the media about Lochte and how it is being framed! MANY are criticizing some of the "boys will be boys" coverage.

It is a shame how Gabby how is being treated, but not surprising sadly. If you can't the racism and sexism in this Olympics and the way some of the reporting went down, I can't help you.

I don't see it. I don't go looking for it, but it definitely was not obvious to me

Case in point - both shotputters stood at attention for the national anthem. No one cared. Gabby was raked over the coals for being unpatriotic for standing at attention. Why the difference in how the athletes were treated?

Maybe you should ask the seven people who were watching the shot put award ceremony. Gabby is a public figure, she gets a lot of benefit for that - she also has to deal with more eyeballs and scrutiny.


The fact that you don't know the names of the shot put winners says all you need to know. I don't know if they are black, brown, white, or even if they are Americans.

Apples and oranges.

LOL, ok. Go with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is all of the outrage at the shot putters not putting their hands over their hearts? Oh, that's right - there is none.

Um because no one watches shot put?

[Anonymous]

I can't find a picture of their medal ceremony, but they did not place their hands over their hearts either and there's been no outrage. But who can look at this photo and say they aren't proud to represent their country? Poor Gabby Douglas is just an easy target for internet bullies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are all just gross! Jesus Christ point me to the crticisms of male athletes not clapping enough for their competitors wins. She did nothing inappropriate. She clapped. You are searching hard for reasons to resent her and criticize her. Ask yourself why.

You're gross for making it about race.

ANYWAYS... how about that Hope Solo, huh?!

Whelp, Hope got her just deserts. http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/24/hope-solo-hit-with-6-month-suspension-for-trashing-sweden/

I like that the representative says that the length is based on conversations they had with her about previous poor behavior.