Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sanders is not an outsider. No one who has spent three decades in elected office, most of that in Congress, is a real outsider. Nor is he some kind of messiah figure. He's someone who barely gets anything done in Congress.

Anyone who believes head to head D-R polls at this point is making a mistake.

And anyone who thinks the "base" of the Democratic Party is super liberal white people is just nuts.

Face it. You have a faction of your party pulling the Democrats further left, just like Dems have accused the Tea Party doing to Republicans.
Bernie is saying things that this group wants to hear. It doesn’t matter that he can’t get any of it done.

There's no comparing the Tea Party. The Sanders Supporters aren't out there in open warfare against their own party, attacking and vilifying their own party leadership, openly calling them liars, et cetera the way the Tea Party is attacking the GOP.

Plus, they aren't even all that radical or far to the left. Their views would be considered quite mainstream in Canada or among any of our European allies.

[Anonymous]

On one hand they want to say "Sanders isn't an outsider, he is establishment" but on the other they also want to say "Sanders is a socialist"

Can't have it both way, folks...

[Anonymous]

Hillary can't win the general. I know many democrats who will just stay home if she is the canidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sanders is not an outsider. No one who has spent three decades in elected office, most of that in Congress, is a real outsider. Nor is he some kind of messiah figure. He's someone who barely gets anything done in Congress.

Anyone who believes head to head D-R polls at this point is making a mistake.

And anyone who thinks the "base" of the Democratic Party is super liberal white people is just nuts.

Face it. You have a faction of your party pulling the Democrats further left, just like Dems have accused the Tea Party doing to Republicans.
Bernie is saying things that this group wants to hear. It doesn’t matter that he can’t get any of it done.

There's no comparing the Tea Party. The Sanders Supporters aren't out there in open warfare against their own party, attacking and vilifying their own party leadership, openly calling them liars, et cetera the way the Tea Party is attacking the GOP.

Plus, they aren't even all that radical or far to the left. Their views would be considered quite mainstream in Canada or among any of our European allies.

Have you been reading the threads on here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hillary can't win the general. I know many democrats who will just stay home if she is the canidate.

And this comes right before the post about how Bernie supporters are not like the Tea Party. Funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sanders is not an outsider. No one who has spent three decades in elected office, most of that in Congress, is a real outsider. Nor is he some kind of messiah figure. He's someone who barely gets anything done in Congress.

Anyone who believes head to head D-R polls at this point is making a mistake.

And anyone who thinks the "base" of the Democratic Party is super liberal white people is just nuts.

Face it. You have a faction of your party pulling the Democrats further left, just like Dems have accused the Tea Party doing to Republicans.
Bernie is saying things that this group wants to hear. It doesn’t matter that he can’t get any of it done.

There's no comparing the Tea Party. The Sanders Supporters aren't out there in open warfare against their own party, attacking and vilifying their own party leadership, openly calling them liars, et cetera the way the Tea Party is attacking the GOP.

Plus, they aren't even all that radical or far to the left. Their views would be considered quite mainstream in Canada or among any of our European allies.

Have you been reading the threads on here?

+1 My thoughts exactly.
And, by the way, their views are not mainstream here. We are not Canada or Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sanders is not an outsider. No one who has spent three decades in elected office, most of that in Congress, is a real outsider. Nor is he some kind of messiah figure. He's someone who barely gets anything done in Congress.

Anyone who believes head to head D-R polls at this point is making a mistake.

And anyone who thinks the "base" of the Democratic Party is super liberal white people is just nuts.

Face it. You have a faction of your party pulling the Democrats further left, just like Dems have accused the Tea Party doing to Republicans.
Bernie is saying things that this group wants to hear. It doesn’t matter that he can’t get any of it done.

There's no comparing the Tea Party. The Sanders Supporters aren't out there in open warfare against their own party, attacking and vilifying their own party leadership, openly calling them liars, et cetera the way the Tea Party is attacking the GOP.

Plus, they aren't even all that radical or far to the left. Their views would be considered quite mainstream in Canada or among any of our European allies.

This is the most unintentionally funny thread I've seen on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On one hand they want to say "Sanders isn't an outsider, he is establishment" but on the other they also want to say "Sanders is a socialist"

Can't have it both way, folks...

Why? Socialism is an ideology. BS's track record in Congress is in fact, not socialistic. I wonder why he did not start a grass roots movement 20 years ago to implement socialist ideals? Was it perhaps because the idea was not popular at the height of the Cold War?

[Anonymous]

Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

I find that so insulting to people who have lived through actual revolutions, you know, the ones who were shot or run over by tanks to take down horrible regimes. I really wish the Sanders campaigns would find a different word for it. And that goes for anyone claiming revolution from a privileged position. I also am pretty taken aback by the statements that Sanders is some sort of never seen before political phenomenon and trailblazer. It's like we've forgotten 2008 and what that election meant for the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

Well, that's the truth. He's calling for things that require constituents demand and hold their elected representatives accountable. Without it, nonthing's going to happen. Voters are taking a risk. But I guess it's a risk worth taking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

Well, that's the truth. He's calling for things that require constituents demand and hold their elected representatives accountable. Without it, nonthing's going to happen. Voters are taking a risk. But I guess it's a risk worth taking.

So, what is his strategy when the people DON’T demand it? I think he is a bit delusional, to be honest.
I also believe anyone calling for a “revolution” is not the candidate who will unite this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

Well, that's the truth. He's calling for things that require constituents demand and hold their elected representatives accountable. Without it, nonthing's going to happen. Voters are taking a risk. But I guess it's a risk worth taking.

So, what is his strategy when the people DON’T demand it? I think he is a bit delusional, to be honest.
I also believe anyone calling for a “revolution” is not the candidate who will unite this country.

So Sanders said when he voted against the Brady bill that he listened to his consistuents. I wonder what will happen when his constituents will refuse to pay higher taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a clip of a Sanders rally yesterday.
He said something about people want to know HOW we will do everything I have proposed.
His response - the people will demand it.
Sure.
Once again, details lacking.
It will be a HUGE revolution.

Well, that's the truth. He's calling for things that require constituents demand and hold their elected representatives accountable. Without it, nonthing's going to happen. Voters are taking a risk. But I guess it's a risk worth taking.

So, what is his strategy when the people DON’T demand it? I think he is a bit delusional, to be honest.
I also believe anyone calling for a “revolution” is not the candidate who will unite this country.

So Sanders said when he voted against the Brady bill that he listened to his consistuents. I wonder what will happen when his constituents will refuse to pay higher taxes.

So you noticed how he uses "listening to constituents" to excuse egregious votes? Also "defending mom and pop gun shops in Vermont."

[Anonymous]

His tax plan is asinine. Most people earning less that 50k a year would be harshly affected by it. That plan alone will kill his chances.