Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?

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Anonymous wrote:The list of affiliated parties is outright scary. The "Sandinista National Liberation Front"? The Sinn Féin?

I hope Sanders campaign can get that fixed. This is not what I expected when I went there to learn more.

Sinn Féin holds seats in both Ireland and Northern Ireland. I'd hardly think they are controversial. Particularly since President Bill Clinton welcomed Gerry Adams, the leader of Sinn Féin, to the White House.

Apart from their violent history (fortunately already renounced), both parties are much more to the left that anything the US has ever seen. When I check the list of affiliates parties I don't find any of the "socialdemocrats" who've been running Europe for decades -- they are the one I was expecting to find. Instead I found parties that most of my friends in Latin America and Europe would consider scary in government.

What can I say. I am surprised.

Just to clarify one point: I wouldn't be scared by finding one such party in a broad coalition government, which is often what happens in other countries. But that's very different from being THE governing party.

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Anonymous wrote:I lean left on a lot of issues, but have voted for republicans before (locally and at the state and congressional level). I've heard about some of his proposals and really don't under HOW he can do any of this considering how right wing the House is at the moment. I also know nothing about what he has accomplished. That said, I agree with a lot of the points he is making but have no clue how any of them would ever be realized (single payer -- means taking down the insurance industry which just seem impossible based on lobbying dollars spent in Congress). Also: the president doesn't pass laws.

For everything I've read about Sanders, I don't think he has any more substance than Clinton. His ideas sound great. But execution?

That said, I don't see myself voting for a republican. Kaisch is the closest to getting my vote and I don't like his stance on abortion.

I agree with most of what you say. In a way, Sanders is like Rubio: beautiful words, amazing rhetoric, and never accomplished anything of substance.

Rubio at least has potential, being just in his 40s.

So I'm not crazy. My facebook went sideways with people extolling his ideas and I spent some of lunch googling him and couldn't really find anything of substance the man accomplished. And his ideas are lovely. But I don't see anything that explains how he plans to accomplish them in this country's political environment. It's crazy to me.

I know, it's like a Twilight Zone episode.

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Anonymous wrote:They were saying the same thing about Obama in 08

http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1737725,00.html

Obama says Sanders is no Obama.

But it's looking like Hillary is the same Hillary.

And Hillary beat Obama in the popular vote and almost beat him in the delegate count.

But it was supposed to be a lock for Clinton because Obama was supposedly unelectable. I'm a Sanders supporter but I sincerely wish the Clinton campaign would go back and examine what happened instead of relying on the same misguided assumptions this time around. It's made them first lazy, then angry and already desperate, which has sped up their implosion schedule by a few months.

Obama is charismatic and inspirational. Sanders is, well, Larry David

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

Fine. How do you feel about the right to choose, PP?

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I was going to vote for Hilary until I started learning more about Bernie. I vote for the candidate I think is the best for the job. Period.

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I honestly think the prospect of President Trump is not that far-fetched anymore

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

Of course. Clinton's views on abortion are very disturbing.

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jsteele wrote:Here are the current poll averages from Real Clear Politics:

Clinton v Trump: Clinton +4.0
Clinton v Cruz: Cruz +1.0
Clinton v Rubio: Rubio +5.0

Sanders v Trump: Sanders +7.7
Sanders v Cruz: Sanders +1.5
Sanders v Rubio: Rubio +1.5


Sanders does better than Clinton in every match up. So, I think your premise may not be correct

What about Kasich? He worries me. I can see him being the Republican that has the best shot of winning.

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

Of course. Clinton's views on abortion are very disturbing.

Elaborate

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

Of course. Clinton's views on abortion are very disturbing.

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I imagine this poster meant one of two things, both reasonable

1) they are pro life but not a single issue voter and align more with democratic ideals so are democrats

2) they don't believe abortion is moral so would never have one themselves but don't agree with making that judgment/decision for all women unilaterally

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I look at it this way. If it's Bernie against ANY Republican, I'll vote for Bernie. If it's Hillary against Kasich, I'll vote for Kasich If it's Hillary against Jeb, I'll probably stay home. If it's Hillary against Trump, I'll vote for Hillary.

And I'm a Democrat for the most part.

How do you feel about abortion?

The proper question to ask a Democrat is "How do you feel about the CHOICE of abortion".

You can be a Democrat and personally be against abortion.

Fine. How do you feel about the right to choose, PP?

It global warming?

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Anonymous wrote:No need for dems to worry--Hillary will be the nominee (if she is not indicted). Superdelegates will prevent Bernie from winning--even if he wins most primaries.

Hillary will likely come out of VT with more delegates than Bernie.

Sure enough, that's exactly what happened. So frustrated with politics.