Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

I think you're onto something. I feel like other candidates (Clinton) are slightly embarrassed of America, whereas he has great optimism.

Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states.

Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board.

Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.[/quote
] It isn't the destruction of unions that has ruined the American Dream. It is over regulation and taxation of business that has pushed businesses over seas. Unions don't make a damn bit of difference when there aren't any jobs.

Aren't there corporations paying zero in taxes? I've heard this and doesn't equate with the above. But I don't have the details.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

news flash. Your household income does not impress me.

I suspect PP is trying to make the point that it's not just blue collar workers, who no one on this board respects, supporting Trump. It's your neighbor in the $3m house with the kids at a Big 3. He just won't admit it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

news flash. Your household income does not impress me.

I suspect PP is trying to make the point that it's not just blue collar workers, who no one on this board respects, supporting Trump. It's your neighbor in the $3m house with the kids at a Big 3. He just won't admit it.

oh I have little doubt the rich support Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

I think you're onto something. I feel like other candidates (Clinton) are slightly embarrassed of America, whereas he has great optimism.

Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states.

Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board.

Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.[/quote
] It isn't the destruction of unions that has ruined the American Dream. It is over regulation and taxation of business that has pushed businesses over seas. Unions don't make a damn bit of difference when there aren't any jobs.

Aren't there corporations paying zero in taxes? I've heard this and doesn't equate with the above. But I don't have the details.

Over-regulation of businesses is out of control. I would get the hell out of the states, too. We are driving businesses out of the country and then bemoaning the loss of blue collar jobs. Well, hello.

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Anonymous wrote:My MIL, a democrat who is very educated, supports him. She is frustrated with the effects of illegal immigration and also believes he will be able to get things done.

A lot of Americans are frustrated with illegal immigration (not immigration-just illegal immigration) and feel as if their concerns have been ignored. Trumps stance (however,ahem, inartfully put) is resonating with people across all classes, races and political persuasions. It speaks to the frustration of the American people with their leaders.

It makes me laugh to see all the liberals crapping themselves over Trump's comments. He is a brilliant man that has amassed $10 billion by playing the system and using the rules to his benefit to win. Understand this, TRUMP IS TRYING TO WIN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION, AT THIS TIME, NOT THE GENERAL ELECTION. Think of it like this, in order to go to the World Series, you have to start your best pitcher in the final game of the playoffs, and therefore may not have him rested for Series which puts you at a disadvantage in the finals. However, you must risk everything and hold nothing back to win the playoffs because if you lose, you have no opportunity to win it all. This is Trump now, he is saying what appeals to the frustrated 35% of the Republican base who are rallying around him because no other candidate dares to do it. The field is large, the "establishment" will splinter the vote and Trump's goal is to capture a plurality in Iowa, NH, and SC. Then he will have momentum. If he can eek out the highest vote total in a field of 8-10 in winner take all states, like Florida, then he is on his way to the nomination. Hillary has shifted to the left to counter Sanders in similar strategy in the Democrat primary Candidates shift their "extreme" positions mostly to the center in the general elections all the time, because the extremes do not appeal to the independents who swing elections. I am sure Trump will do so as well to appeal to the greatest majority at that time should he win the nomination. Again, it is a game and he is using the rules to garner his best chance of winning. He may be winning ugly, but it is a completely calculated stategy. So try and take his comments with a grain of salt as they are simply aimed at rallying the base.

Romney blew his chance to win the general election because of his "self-deportation" comments in the primary. It'll be worse for Trump because his crazy comments are getting waaaayyyyy more attention than Romney's ever did. It's not like voters experience amnesia after the primaries.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of my liberal friends in IT are very concerned with H1B visas I also know a lot of parents who are frustrated that it si so difficult to get into college and are upset that students VISAS are taking the spots of us citizens.

But I bet they don't support Sanders when he says college should be free. So the foreign kids 1) have better grades and 2) can pay. That's what happens when you run colleges like businesses.

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Who are these people? My in laws. Lower middle class lifelong government worker + SAHM. Thinly veiled racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Come with me to the small towns of Pennsylvania or hang out with the guys taking a smoke break at our warehouse in Beltsville, MD. You'll meet them.

And, yes, they know what you think of them. Your ignorant criticisms of their lives and choices only confirm their support of Trump.

This is exactly right. Throw out the Muslims? I actually find it scary how insular the liberals DC-er's are. I don't agree with Trump but your blatant lack of understanding of how America works is disturbing.

It goes back to education in the hot bed of liberalism (aka colleges and universities). These pillars of indoctrination are not teaching a variety of though, multiple view points or a need to understand that there is more than one way to address an issue. I say this as someone with multiple degrees. Unless or until a balance can be found on university campuses, we will continue to have educated elites who have no understanding of viewpoints that do not aline with what they have been taught to believe.

I would like you to tell us what exactly it is we need to understand about working America. Someone mentioned immigration being a big concern. How many times has Obama asked Congress to ask on this? And how come his administration has had the largest number of deportations?

"working America" does not want amnesty. That is the only type of immigration reform that would be supported by the President. No point in advancing it as it is not supported by the majority of the Country, especially the working class.

On point.

Yep. The vast majority of voting Americans do not want amnesty and Congress knows it. That's why immigration reform hasn't happened.

So, that actually resulted in illegal immigrants still being here, immigration authorities still being spread thin, and no revenue (that we could've had if these people had to pay fees and taxes). How is that better?

It is not. Too bad the President was so entrenched in the position that amnesty be a part of a comprehensive reform that the bill is DOA and all those other benefits are not realized.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

I think you're onto something. I feel like other candidates (Clinton) are slightly embarrassed of America, whereas he has great optimism.

Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states.

Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board.

Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.[/quote
] It isn't the destruction of unions that has ruined the American Dream. It is over regulation and taxation of business that has pushed businesses over seas. Unions don't make a damn bit of difference when there aren't any jobs.

Aren't there corporations paying zero in taxes? I've heard this and doesn't equate with the above. But I don't have the details.

Jesus no. What garbage has Hillary been telling you. Corporations get to deduct expenses just like you and me; they pay taxes on any profit over their expenses. Taxes corporations doesn't make sense IMO though, since they are just tools owned by the principals. The principals are taxed on any profit they withdraw from the corporation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

news flash. Your household income does not impress me.

I suspect PP is trying to make the point that it's not just blue collar workers, who no one on this board respects, supporting Trump. It's your neighbor in the $3m house with the kids at a Big 3. He just won't admit it.

Yup. But won't admit it because of the Stalinist-level political correctness that we have these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My MIL, a democrat who is very educated, supports him. She is frustrated with the effects of illegal immigration and also believes he will be able to get things done.

A lot of Americans are frustrated with illegal immigration (not immigration-just illegal immigration) and feel as if their concerns have been ignored. Trumps stance (however,ahem, inartfully put) is resonating with people across all classes, races and political persuasions. It speaks to the frustration of the American people with their leaders.

It makes me laugh to see all the liberals crapping themselves over Trump's comments. He is a brilliant man that has amassed $10 billion by playing the system and using the rules to his benefit to win. Understand this, TRUMP IS TRYING TO WIN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION, AT THIS TIME, NOT THE GENERAL ELECTION. Think of it like this, in order to go to the World Series, you have to start your best pitcher in the final game of the playoffs, and therefore may not have him rested for Series which puts you at a disadvantage in the finals. However, you must risk everything and hold nothing back to win the playoffs because if you lose, you have no opportunity to win it all. This is Trump now, he is saying what appeals to the frustrated 35% of the Republican base who are rallying around him because no other candidate dares to do it. The field is large, the "establishment" will splinter the vote and Trump's goal is to capture a plurality in Iowa, NH, and SC. Then he will have momentum. If he can eek out the highest vote total in a field of 8-10 in winner take all states, like Florida, then he is on his way to the nomination. Hillary has shifted to the left to counter Sanders in similar strategy in the Democrat primary Candidates shift their "extreme" positions mostly to the center in the general elections all the time, because the extremes do not appeal to the independents who swing elections. I am sure Trump will do so as well to appeal to the greatest majority at that time should he win the nomination. Again, it is a game and he is using the rules to garner his best chance of winning. He may be winning ugly, but it is a completely calculated stategy. So try and take his comments with a grain of salt as they are simply aimed at rallying the base.

Romney blew his chance to win the general election because of his "self-deportation" comments in the primary. It'll be worse for Trump because his crazy comments are getting waaaayyyyy more attention than Romney's ever did. It's not like voters experience amnesia after the primaries.

Romney did what he had to to get the nomination. So is Trump. No nomination, no chance of becoming president.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

I think you're onto something. I feel like other candidates (Clinton) are slightly embarrassed of America, whereas he has great optimism.

Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states.

Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board.

Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.

Unions have been destroyed by a laundry list of causes. Not the least of which were Bill Clinton's NAFTA and the absolute disregard the federal government has shown towards the hiring of ILLEGAL workers. The illegal workers have caused a huge labor surplus in our country and have created a race to the bottom as far as wages go. This may not compute in our little beltway bubble, but it's huge in fly-over land. I can imagine Trump getting more blue collar votes than Reagan.

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Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.

I made no such implication. No one doubts the patriotism of liberal icons like FDR and JFK, each of whom enjoyed strong backing from Reagan democrats. But to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen (a WWII combat pilot and patriot), Obama is no John Kennedy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an attorney and HHI is over 500k. I like trump. I'll probably say I voted for Rubio or something though if anyone asks me.

+1, though my HHI exceeds $1.3mm. My main concerns with Trump, though, would be his inability to (i) work with Congress, given the failures of the Obama administration in that regard and the obvious cost it has had to our economy, and (ii) attract and retain top talent in senior government positions. The main draw of Trump is his optimism about America ("gonna be great!"), not unlike that of Reagan after the dour Jimmy Carter (shudder) years.

I think you're onto something. I feel like other candidates (Clinton) are slightly embarrassed of America, whereas he has great optimism.

Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states.

Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board.

Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.[/quote
] It isn't the destruction of unions that has ruined the American Dream. It is over regulation and taxation of business that has pushed businesses over seas. Unions don't make a damn bit of difference when there aren't any jobs.

Aren't there corporations paying zero in taxes? I've heard this and doesn't equate with the above. But I don't have the details.

Jesus no. What garbage has Hillary been telling you. Corporations get to deduct expenses just like you and me; they pay taxes on any profit over their expenses. Taxes corporations doesn't make sense IMO though, since they are just tools owned by the principals. The principals are taxed on any profit they withdraw from the corporation.

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/08/13/20-big-profitable-us-companies-paid-no-taxes.html

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of my liberal friends in IT are very concerned with H1B visas I also know a lot of parents who are frustrated that it si so difficult to get into college and are upset that students VISAS are taking the spots of us citizens.

But I bet they don't support Sanders when he says college should be free. So the foreign kids 1) have better grades and 2) can pay. That's what happens when you run colleges like businesses.

If college is free and everyone goes it would make getting in a lot harder.