I don't think this poster is trying to impress anyone--rather he/she is showing support across economic lines. |
Here is the salient point: just because a president wants to pass legislation acceptable to him it does not mean that Congress has to abide with his wishes. Obama wanted comprehensive immigration reform which would ultimately include amnesty: Congress was not willing to go along with it. He then sought to accomplish this, in part, through an executive order and was stopped by the courts. The total deportations as I understand it is based on people who are turned away at the border which the administration has been counting as a deportation. |
I have thought all along that Obama's unfettered use of executive order to get around Congress will come back to the bite the D's in the ass when a R is back in the White House. It was very short-sighted not to temper this action. This is partly was has provided a ground swell of support for someone like Trump. Too many Americans are fed up with political grandstanding that does not represent the desires of the people. |
So? It's people who are not in the country and it's a far larger number than the previous administration. But I guess it doesn't count, because Obama. Can you spell out Trump's immigration plan for me and how it will be implemented? |
Yep. The vast majority of voting Americans do not want amnesty and Congress knows it. That's why immigration reform hasn't happened. |
Blue collar whites, so called Reagan democrats, are his main supporters. I think of them as football fans (NFL, college) looking for something to root for, to believe in. They hold America (as they envision it) very dear, and have seen it demoralized and degraded by the Obama administration, which they feel does not value the "real" America. They are patriotic, singing the Star Spangled Banner and saying the Pledge of Allegiance without irony, and likely said a prayer before Thanksgiving dinner. Their children volunteer for military service, and they don't worry about what schools are in the "Big 3" in their communities, because their children attend the local public school. "HYP" means nothing to them. They know how to pronounce "corpsman". No matter how tired, they know that America has 50 states. Finally, they are terrific people, the backbone of America, and far too often scorned on this board. |
So, that actually resulted in illegal immigrants still being here, immigration authorities still being spread thin, and no revenue (that we could've had if these people had to pay fees and taxes). How is that better? |
As POTUS he obviously wouldn't have the authority to do everything that he campaigns on, but immigration laws would start being enforced, we'd be more careful about what nations we accept immigrants from, the libs cramming political correctness down our throats would be shut up, Putin would respect us and his power grabs would be curtailed, and we would have an at least decent shot of finding a way to work productively with an emerging China. The biggest downside with him is that I doubt he would cut spending and taxes, but no one would do that anyway (despite all the rhetoric) except maybe Rand Paul. Rand Paul would be my first pick but he doesn't have any chance of winning. |
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Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots. |
All it takes is the mention of amnesty to create hope and a new flood of illegal border crossers. The amnesty is a big driver of the northbound stream. |
A lot of my liberal friends in IT are very concerned with H1B visas I also know a lot of parents who are frustrated that it si so difficult to get into college and are upset that students VISAS are taking the spots of us citizens. |
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This. It is not just a "republican" issue. Both set of party elites are underestimating the frustration of the American people. |
PP2, that was me. As PP1 said, I was not trying to impress anyone with an, um, anonymous posting. And don't call me "newsflash", or Shirley, or Francis. ![]() |