Why are white people all around the world not having kids?

[Anonymous]

We make $200K and we have 4 children and $800 in student loans and a $2200 month mortgage and they go to private school/nanny share. It is absolutely doable and to say "I cant afford it" is absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't want them, fine. If you want them, but don't want to make any changes to your lifestyle, fine. But be honest with yourself and us if you are posting here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We make $200K and we have 4 children and $800 in student loans and a $2200 month mortgage and they go to private school/nanny share. It is absolutely doable and to say "I cant afford it" is absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't want them, fine. If you want them, but don't want to make any changes to your lifestyle, fine. But be honest with yourself and us if you are posting here.

Exactly. Voice of reason.

Someone with a $175k income has $25k. Be honest with yourself. Stop spreading the "whoa is me" DCUM crap that with an income well Into the 6 figures, you can't afford stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We make $200K and we have 4 children and $800 in student loans and a $2200 month mortgage and they go to private school/nanny share. It is absolutely doable and to say "I cant afford it" is absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't want them, fine. If you want them, but don't want to make any changes to your lifestyle, fine. But be honest with yourself and us if you are posting here.

Our mortgage is twice yours. You are either old and bought a long time ago, had family help, or live in a crappy area. Do you work or does your husband make all the income? Do you pay childcare expenses for all 4 children? Do they go to Catholic private school? If not, you're paying 30k a year x4. Something isn't adding up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

People means people. Not people in the DCUM demographic. People. All people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

People means people. Not people in the DCUM demographic. People. All people.

We are talking about people in this area. It is expensive. Who cares what people in BFE do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

People means people. Not people in the DCUM demographic. People. All people.

We are talking about people in this area. It is expensive. Who cares what people in BFE do?

Thread title is "people all around the world". It includes people here, who have a low-but-not-zero number of kids, versus the people who have many kids.

[Anonymous]

What do you consider bfe? Anything outside city lines?

Yes, people move to cheaper burbs, they cut some savings priorities to afford daycare, they use cheaper daycare forms, they flex hours, etc. etc.

We had our first when we made $90k combined. We were able to pay a mortgage on a small TH in the burbs, save and send our child to an in home daycare.

This was less than 10 years ago, btw. So, spare me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We make $200K and we have 4 children and $800 in student loans and a $2200 month mortgage and they go to private school/nanny share. It is absolutely doable and to say "I cant afford it" is absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't want them, fine. If you want them, but don't want to make any changes to your lifestyle, fine. But be honest with yourself and us if you are posting here.

Our mortgage is twice yours. You are either old and bought a long time ago, had family help, or live in a crappy area. Do you work or does your husband make all the income? Do you pay childcare expenses for all 4 children? Do they go to Catholic private school? If not, you're paying 30k a year x4. Something isn't adding up.

This! Something aint clean in the milk about PP's account. The math doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

People means people. Not people in the DCUM demographic. People. All people.

We are talking about people in this area. It is expensive. Who cares what people in BFE do?

Thread title is "people all around the world". It includes people here, who have a low-but-not-zero number of kids, versus the people who have many kids.

Learn to read. The quoted poster I was responding to said "There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you consider bfe? Anything outside city lines?

Yes, people move to cheaper burbs, they cut some savings priorities to afford daycare, they use cheaper daycare forms, they flex hours, etc. etc.

We had our first when we made $90k combined. We were able to pay a mortgage on a small TH in the burbs, save and send our child to an in home daycare.

This was less than 10 years ago, btw. So, spare me.

That lifestyle sounds terrible. Not everyone had the biological urge to have a child at all costs.

[Anonymous]

Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.

Because we can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, the posters above with large HHI are are not too poor. Their priorities are not aligned with kids. Whatever. Do what you want. But stop with the "we can't afford it" crap - it just isn't true.

Daycare plus very basic child needs (diapers, formula) runs at least 25k a year. Do you really think most 30 year olds have an extra 25k laying around?

There are plenty of 30-year-olds in the DC area who have children. I haven't asked them all whether or not they have an extra $25,000 lying around, but the possibilities are 1. yes, they do, or 2. no, they don't, but are somehow managing anyway.

Now, you might not want to manage the way they're managing. And that would be perfectly ok!

But it is absurd to say, "I can't afford to have a child", when there are a lot of people who earn a lot less than you and have a child.

I am 30 and know maybe 3 people who had a child at age 30 in this area. One had incredible financial support from family (bought them a house) and the other had to move from the city to the burbs into a family-owned condo. The third couple got pregnant on accident and the child had severe needs. They had to move way out into MD and the wife had to quit her job. They are barely getting by.

People means people. Not people in the DCUM demographic. People. All people.

We are talking about people in this area. It is expensive. Who cares what people in BFE do?

NP. This sums up your attitude perfectly. No, you're not going to be able to have kids AND live in Logan Circle, shop at Intermix, brunch at Le Diplomate every Sunday and head up to NYC one weekend a month