Biased 'bout beamers and benz

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(First, I know this is a petty rant!) I do very well financially and have been doing so for many years. Yet I'm frugal and drive a Japanese sedan. I often see people in large BMW 7 series or S class Mercedes and really feel a strong dislike, even revulsion. This is not sour grapes: I could afford an S class if I choose to so allocate my money, but find the idea financially ridiculous in how wasteful it is. I suppose part of me thinks the drivers of those showy, quickly depreciating, gas-guzzling, expensive maintenance-loving behemoths are trying to compensate for something. Anyone else share this reaction?

I couldn't read thru the last 8 pages of responses, but let me summarize:
1) you DON'T earn enough to get yourself a nice ride, but keep lying to yourself.
2) in % terms, what do you think your car depreciated, rolling out the door, vs a BMW or Benz? So, we now know you don't make enough to afford a nice car, AND, you lack the basics of break-even analysis.
3) No one else has your insecurities, thus, no one else has this same revulsion you do.

+1000

The fact that the OP sits around stewing about this ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Yes, but technically it is wrong. PP was right - "beamer" refers to BMW motorcycles and "bimmer" to automobiles. Urban or not, using beamer to refer to cars is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Wrong.

http://jalopnik.com/139926/bimmer-vs-beamer-the-answer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Wrong.

http://jalopnik.com/139926/bimmer-vs-beamer-the-answer

That's not an urban, colloquial reference. Furthermore, we all knew that the OP was referring to an automobile.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJMnzdUsTBk

Beamer, Benz, or Bentley

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a vegetarian and concerned about the environment. Have always driven used Japanese sedans yet would like to now own a bigger luxury vehicle. I drove my dad's BMW for a few weeks and wow it felt so much better driving it and I would like a bigger car because it will feel safer driving my little one. I didn't think I would ever want an SUV. We were rear ended in a sedan and I know I would have had better protection in an SUV. Minivan is too much for our needs. So you never know what someone is thinking when they are getting a BMW or Mercedes. Of course I can never get a luxury car since they all have leather seats but why judge.

Most MB don't have leather, they have MB Tex which is just a fancy word for vinyl. I think BMWs version is called Leatherette.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Wrong.

http://jalopnik.com/139926/bimmer-vs-beamer-the-answer

That's not an urban, colloquial reference. Furthermore, we all knew that the OP was referring to an automobile.

Still doesn't make it correct. You sound like a good helicopter snowflake nurturer that wants everyone to get to play and everyone gets a first place medal at the end. Sorry, there's right and wrong and "beamer" for a car is wrong.

No medal, go sit on the bench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Wrong.

http://jalopnik.com/139926/bimmer-vs-beamer-the-answer

That's not an urban, colloquial reference. Furthermore, we all knew that the OP was referring to an automobile.

Still doesn't make it correct. You sound like a good helicopter snowflake nurturer that wants everyone to get to play and everyone gets a first place medal at the end. Sorry, there's right and wrong and "beamer" for a car is wrong.

No medal, go sit on the bench.

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”


? Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Wrong.

http://jalopnik.com/139926/bimmer-vs-beamer-the-answer

That's not an urban, colloquial reference. Furthermore, we all knew that the OP was referring to an automobile.

Still doesn't make it correct. You sound like a good helicopter snowflake nurturer that wants everyone to get to play and everyone gets a first place medal at the end. Sorry, there's right and wrong and "beamer" for a car is wrong.

No medal, go sit on the bench.

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”


? Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

Language is for communication. It's only meaningful if two parties communicating come to some basic agreement on the meaning of words. No one party can claim to be the master of the English language, and an anecdotal mis-use of "Beamer" does not change the meaning of this word for the masses.

[Anonymous]

Uh, OP, I'm not sure if you are aware of the used car market? All cars, including the ones you deride, can be purchased quite affordably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it's "Bimmer" not "Beamer". Good lord, have a seat on your rickety Craigslist furniture and obsess over all of your "Vanguards".

Beamer is an urban term and still totally valid, even if it's not to your liking.

Yes, but technically it is wrong. PP was right - "beamer" refers to BMW motorcycles and "bimmer" to automobiles. Urban or not, using beamer to refer to cars is wrong.

No one cares except gearheads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(First, I know this is a petty rant!) I do very well financially and have been doing so for many years. Yet I'm frugal and drive a Japanese sedan. I often see people in large BMW 7 series or S class Mercedes and really feel a strong dislike, even revulsion. This is not sour grapes: I could afford an S class if I choose to so allocate my money, but find the idea financially ridiculous in how wasteful it is. I suppose part of me thinks the drivers of those showy, quickly depreciating, gas-guzzling, expensive maintenance-loving behemoths are trying to compensate for something. Anyone else share this reaction?

I couldn't read thru the last 8 pages of responses, but let me summarize:
1) you DON'T earn enough to get yourself a nice ride, but keep lying to yourself.
2) in % terms, what do you think your car depreciated, rolling out the door, vs a BMW or Benz? So, we now know you don't make enough to afford a nice car, AND, you lack the basics of break-even analysis.
3) No one else has your insecurities, thus, no one else has this same revulsion you do.

+1000

The fact that the OP sits around stewing about this ...

Point #3 is based on flawed assumptions. A significant percentage of people who buy these cars do so (consciously or not) as an act of conspicuous consumption. Conspicuous being the operative word--the very point of driving a luxury vehicle for many (not all) is to make a statement about their relative worth, financial and otherwise. The OP and others are therefore quite correct to suggest that it is the owners' desire to make a public statement and to generate a reaction from third parties. One can hardly be surprised that some such third parties will react to said conspicuous display with revulsion rather than admiration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DH is a super nice guy, loves cars, likes nice things, we both drive luxury cars... and even he has a negative reaction to BMWs. He said the reputation is generally people who drive them are assholes. So you're not alone.

+1
I've been hit twice by men driving black BMW sedans. Complete assholes!! Accidents 100% their fault. Both lied to the insurance company (oh, so my car drives sideways??)

I drive a Japanese car. Always will, even if I could afford a BMW (I can't, not unless I put my kids in public schools). BMW is a nouveaux riches car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(First, I know this is a petty rant!) I do very well financially and have been doing so for many years. Yet I'm frugal and drive a Japanese sedan. I often see people in large BMW 7 series or S class Mercedes and really feel a strong dislike, even revulsion. This is not sour grapes: I could afford an S class if I choose to so allocate my money, but find the idea financially ridiculous in how wasteful it is. I suppose part of me thinks the drivers of those showy, quickly depreciating, gas-guzzling, expensive maintenance-loving behemoths are trying to compensate for something. Anyone else share this reaction?

I couldn't read thru the last 8 pages of responses, but let me summarize:
1) you DON'T earn enough to get yourself a nice ride, but keep lying to yourself.
2) in % terms, what do you think your car depreciated, rolling out the door, vs a BMW or Benz? So, we now know you don't make enough to afford a nice car, AND, you lack the basics of break-even analysis.
3) No one else has your insecurities, thus, no one else has this same revulsion you do.

+1000

The fact that the OP sits around stewing about this ...

Point #3 is based on flawed assumptions. A significant percentage of people who buy these cars do so (consciously or not) as an act of conspicuous consumption. Conspicuous being the operative word--the very point of driving a luxury vehicle for many (not all) is to make a statement about their relative worth, financial and otherwise. The OP and others are therefore quite correct to suggest that it is the owners' desire to make a public statement and to generate a reaction from third parties. One can hardly be surprised that some such third parties will react to said conspicuous display with revulsion rather than admiration.

Excellent post. Aside from gearheads who truly appreciate a performance car and are likely to take them out in the country or to the track the only other charlatans buying them are the poseurs trying to look rich. They simply aren't as reliable or as easy to maintain as a quality Japanese car so the only point to the average mouth breather on DCUM buying them is to put on airs.