
I meant this post to affirm that 13:33 said, not what PP said. I'd rather the schools send a message that underage drinking will not be tolerated. Too bad for the ones who get caught. Do the crime? Do the time. |
It seems to me that the highest stakes are the lives of the students, who may be driving themselves and others to and from prom. |
OK. I can accept the idea that need to discourage drinking and driving is a worthy goal. But does anyone think we have gone too far in chasing teenage drinking. It's almost impossible to have a private party that includes teens any more because the law makes us liable if there is drinking in the house, even if parents do everything possible to stop it including searching backpacks, banning repeated entering and exiting etc. Short of full-on airport style searches, you can't stop kids from drinking. forcing them in to cars and other extremely unsupervised places. |
No, if there's teenage drinking at private parties, the parents have not done enough. What you are advocating is condonement, and parental condonement is a big part of the problem. It's parents like you who make it dangerous for my child to attend a party or even be in a car at night because a teenaged drunk driver could be coming out from your party. |
Weird. Because I think it's parents like you that are the problem. My teeanger is forbidden to drink but I'm a realist. I have a ``no questions asked'' policy so that if he needs a ride home, I can pick him up and drive him home. I'm only willing to pick up friends who have a similar deal with their parents. I know my kid and a few of his friends will be safe. But the parents who have absolute zero tolerance policy...their kids are going homes with drivers who may be drunk. I'd rather be realistic and practical than have my kid be involved in a possible drunk driving accident. |
14:32 _ I have to say, it's more likely that your kid will end up in drunk driver's car or that your kid will end up driving drunk. |
who the heck cares about teenage drinking? everyone on this board was allowed to drink when they were 18, and i think we all can agree that was much more reasonable than 21 |
i agree. It's time to lower the drinking age to 18. |
When the drinking age was 18, 14 year olds were buying alcohol. Public health studies are clear that raising the drinking age helped cut down on drunk driving and highway fatalities. I assume the above post was from a teenager, by the way. |
Actually, drunk driving has gone down worldwide in the time since america raised the drinking age; most experts believe the lowered fatalities due to drunk driving are a result of better education and awareness rather than the age being 21. America has the 3rd highest drinking age in the WORLD, yet still manages to have higher binge-drinking rates amongst teens than virtually any country on the planet. There's actually no real factual rationale for America's unnecessarily high drinking age. You ought to look into it, because you seem misinformed. |
You don't know my kids, obviously. Yes, I'd be worried that they'd end up in a drunk driver's car, but they would never drive drunk. In fact they'd never drink because my family has a known genetic intolerance to alcohol and never drink. |
We will have to agree to disagree, although I think the binge drinking part may have some truth to it. I still think the effect on driving has been good. Where driving is not in the picture, like on a college campus maybe, I think barring supervised drinking at college functions encourages "pre gaming" (shots etc) and there is a higher risk of alcohol related fatalities. Lastly, I don't think wen can separate the confounding effects of American parenting styles. It startsnwith the peoplenwho let their toddlers run arondnin nice restaurants and goes from there. |
Here are some facts:
The U.S. is one of only five nations in the world that has a law limiting drinking to those over 21. The other nations are Fiji, Palau, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Despite the 21-law, it has the sixth highest rate of drunk driving fatalities. Drunk driving has fallen significantly across all age categories since the 21-law was imposed. |
If anything, lower the drinking age and raise the driving age. |
Yeah, what's the traffic like in Palau? |