Salary and career survey 2014

[Anonymous]

Physician, 5th year out of fellowship.

620k.

Started around 500k when I got out.

Unsure of future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Physician, 5th year out of fellowship.

620k.

Started around 500k when I got out.

Unsure of future.

I smell a rat - http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Physician, 5th year out of fellowship.

620k.

Started around 500k when I got out.

Unsure of future.

What's you practice area? DH is in anesthesia is 15 years out and has a base of 660K. How are you bringing in this much so soon?

[Anonymous]

No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Nice. The practice of medicine is not about health care but about "RVU generation"--just another way of saying "induced demand." Ah, the moral underpinnings of so many of today's MDs--just warms the cockles of the heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

How about salary.com http://www1.salary.com/Anesthesiologist-Salary.html which has the median at about 350k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Nice. The practice of medicine is not about health care but about "RVU generation"--just another way of saying "induced demand." Ah, the moral underpinnings of so many of today's MDs--just warms the cockles of the heart.

They were asking about payment levels, you dolt. Let me guess, all physicians should be paid the same under your communist system, right?

How hard you work multiplied times the patients third party payor = revenue generated.

I think we should get rid of all 3rd party payers and have patients pay physicians directly, allowing free markets to determine pay .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Amga and MGMA numbers are much closer to reality, yet still underreport physician pay.

You can google for those surveys from years past, current editions are at least $1000 last I checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

How about salary.com http://www1.salary.com/Anesthesiologist-Salary.html which has the median at about 350k.

Salary.com is useless for any medical specialty - I imagine the same is to be said for other jobs as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Amga and MGMA numbers are much closer to reality, yet still underreport physician pay.

You can google for those surveys from years past, current editions are at least $1000 last I checked.

Why do doctors whine about pay if these numbers are correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Amga and MGMA numbers are much closer to reality, yet still underreport physician pay.

You can google for those surveys from years past, current editions are at least $1000 last I checked.

Why do doctors whine about pay if these numbers are correct?

Because a pediatrician makes about $90k to $120k. A typical internist or family practice doctor makes $150k. This super high salaries are in a few select us subspecialties.

[Anonymous]

Wow

Now that you've vented on the physician,
Real estate agent $800,000 range
BS and MS economics 11 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Hey Doug, what's up?

Not much, how have you been?

Great. Say, I was wondering, how much do you make?

Well - its been busy. Making about $1.2M.



Sounds like an awesome friendship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Amga and MGMA numbers are much closer to reality, yet still underreport physician pay.

You can google for those surveys from years past, current editions are at least $1000 last I checked.

Why do doctors whine about pay if these numbers are correct?

Because some of the hardest working make the least (think ER and Internists/FPs) the more highly specialized your practice (neurosurgeon, cardiotherasic oh and plastics - but for different reasons) the more you make. It also depends on where your practice is. The assumption that all doctors make the same mystery salary is ridiculous. It might also amaze you how much dentists/orthodontists (many of whom did not get into med school) make. They are bringing home the big bucks and have an awsome work schedule.