Salary and career survey 2014

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Nice. The practice of medicine is not about health care but about "RVU generation"--just another way of saying "induced demand." Ah, the moral underpinnings of so many of today's MDs--just warms the cockles of the heart.

They were asking about payment levels, you dolt. Let me guess, all physicians should be paid the same under your communist system, right?

How hard you work multiplied times the patients third party payor = revenue generated.

I think we should get rid of all 3rd party payers and have patients pay physicians directly, allowing free markets to determine pay .

thanks, I'm a health care financing analyst. I know all about the RVU system. Let's dispense with the bullshit that it's about "how hard" you work.

Your last sentence just confirms my previous assessment of your moral underpinnings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Source for figures?

Personal friends of mine.

Amga and MGMA numbers are much closer to reality, yet still underreport physician pay.

You can google for those surveys from years past, current editions are at least $1000 last I checked.

Why do doctors whine about pay if these numbers are correct?

Because some of the hardest working make the least (think ER and Internists/FPs) the more highly specialized your practice (neurosurgeon, cardiotherasic oh and plastics - but for different reasons) the more you make. It also depends on where your practice is. The assumption that all doctors make the same mystery salary is ridiculous. It might also amaze you how much dentists/orthodontists (many of whom did not get into med school) make. They are bringing home the big bucks and have an awsome work schedule.

Exactly. But bullshit artist above will tell us it's about "how hard" you work. RVU generation, indeed.

Don't get me started on the cost of orthodontia. The "work" of braces has declined exponentially in recent years, yet the price continues to rise. Of course, demand continues to rise as well in a crazy Economic Bizarroland way, so you can't really blame the orthodontists for cashing in.

[Anonymous]

Started at the bottom unskilled making 10/hr before I was even old enough to drink. I stayed in that job for several years. Took night classes, got an associates degree in computer science and transferred in the company. I've been a software developer now for 9 years and make 110k. Still don't have a bachelors and now with kids I'm not sure I can find the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No rat - bls stats are so far off.

It's all about payor mix and rvu generation.

Think surgical sub specialty.

Don't you guys know that spine surgeons make 7 figs, as well as neurosurgeons?

Busy orthopedic docs make. 7 figs. GI docs.

660k is a high base for anesthesia - his group must be ripe for takeover by a huge corporation. All anestbesia groups pulling that in DC have already been bought, so you must be outside of DC.

Nice. The practice of medicine is not about health care but about "RVU generation"--just another way of saying "induced demand." Ah, the moral underpinnings of so many of today's MDs--just warms the cockles of the heart.

They were asking about payment levels, you dolt. Let me guess, all physicians should be paid the same under your communist system, right?

How hard you work multiplied times the patients third party payor = revenue generated.

I think we should get rid of all 3rd party payers and have patients pay physicians directly, allowing free markets to determine pay .

thanks, I'm a health care financing analyst. I know all about the RVU system. Let's dispense with the bullshit that it's about "how hard" you work.

Your last sentence just confirms my previous assessment of your moral underpinnings.

And you've proving you're a fascist - you want govt controlled 3rd party payers, ie, obamacare.

You know nothing about healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Physician, 5th year out of fellowship.

620k.

Started around 500k when I got out.

Unsure of future.

I smell a rat - http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm

innovative coding? Drive by doctoring?
are you a friend of dr Mu?

[Anonymous]

Market research
$125k
10 years
DC

[Anonymous]

Independent School Admin: 55K
BA
7 years

[Anonymous]

Civil Engineer
$102K
10 yrs.
Strictly 8 to 5.

[Anonymous]

Librarian
$122,000
21 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Started at the bottom unskilled making 10/hr before I was even old enough to drink. I stayed in that job for several years. Took night classes, got an associates degree in computer science and transferred in the company. I've been a software developer now for 9 years and make 110k. Still don't have a bachelors and now with kids I'm not sure I can find the time.

male or female?
My story is the same, but I make $95k

[Anonymous]

215K
Government lawyer
15 yrs

[Anonymous]

950K.
Management Consultant.
14 years.
3 wives.
5 cars.
2 homes.

[Anonymous]

$92k
Director of PR (non-profit)
15 + years
DC area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:215K
Government lawyer
15 yrs

how does this work? i thought govt capped below that.

[Anonymous]

a couple of agencies that i know of (SEC comes to mind) pay higher. actually, now that i'm thinking about it the only one that i know for sure does this is the SEC.