AAP - A new perspective

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread- one of many that try to design a new approach - not gonna happen people! Talk all you want but a dcum forum will not change things!

As 6/18/2014 23:35 suggested, how about an online petition such as change.org/petition?

Agree.

OP are you still here? How about starting this petition?

In the mean time, let's all call or email our cluster supervisors regarding this.

http://www.fcps.edu/clusters/

School board would be better so it's more of a county wide change.

http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/members/bdmembers.shtml

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that this is the best suggestion.

Reassess those oversized centers and their feeder system.

If the base school averages enough kids to fill two level IV classes, then they become a self contained school with no feeders.

Isn't this essentially what FPAC proposed?

They proposed eliminating all Centers.

If only. AAP parents would probably be up in arms about that, but you can bet the rest of the parents in FCPS would be in favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that this is the best suggestion.

Reassess those oversized centers and their feeder system.

If the base school averages enough kids to fill two level IV classes, then they become a self contained school with no feeders.

Isn't this essentially what FPAC proposed?

They proposed eliminating all Centers.

If only. AAP parents would probably be up in arms about that, but you can bet the rest of the parents in FCPS would be in favor.

Yes, eliminating all centers would be a terrible idea. Eliminating some in the schools with exceptionally high AAP populations is a fine idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that this is the best suggestion.

Reassess those oversized centers and their feeder system.

If the base school averages enough kids to fill two level IV classes, then they become a self contained school with no feeders.

Isn't this essentially what FPAC proposed?

They proposed eliminating all Centers.

If only. AAP parents would probably be up in arms about that, but you can bet the rest of the parents in FCPS would be in favor.

Yes, eliminating all centers would be a terrible idea. Eliminating some in the schools with exceptionally high AAP populations is a fine idea.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that this is the best suggestion.

Reassess those oversized centers and their feeder system.

If the base school averages enough kids to fill two level IV classes, then they become a self contained school with no feeders.

Isn't this essentially what FPAC proposed?

They proposed eliminating all Centers.

No, just a pilot for 2 overcrowded centers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that this is the best suggestion.

Reassess those oversized centers and their feeder system.

If the base school averages enough kids to fill two level IV classes, then they become a self contained school with no feeders.

Isn't this essentially what FPAC proposed?

They proposed eliminating all Centers.

No, just a pilot for 2 overcrowded centers.

Not according to the report and the presentation by the committee at the work session.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No, just a pilot for 2 overcrowded centers.

Not according to the report and the presentation by the committee at the work session.

Odd, I thought the annual report from FPAC recommended a pilot at the overcrowded Greenbriar West ES and Carson MS AAP centers.

[Anonymous]

OP. Be careful what you wish for. The AAP centers serve a valuable service to the students in non-center schools and IMO it should stay that way. I really don't think FCPS is capable of appropriately handling the mixed student body effectively. I agree they need to make a change but what will they do with all the 2E students. Non-center schools are already overburdened with ESOL and special education. The 2E learners need a spot to. I don't agree that an AAP center is the proper placement but it is working and our non-center school is much better because of it. So leave it alone. Elementary will be gone soon and trust me IT WILL NO MATTER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP. Be careful what you wish for. The AAP centers serve a valuable service to the students in non-center schools and IMO it should stay that way. I really don't think FCPS is capable of appropriately handling the mixed student body effectively. I agree they need to make a change but what will they do with all the 2E students. Non-center schools are already overburdened with ESOL and special education. The 2E learners need a spot to. I don't agree that an AAP center is the proper placement but it is working and our non-center school is much better because of it. So leave it alone. Elementary will be gone soon and trust me IT WILL NO MATTER.

Not the OP, but I wholeheartedly disagree. Center schools provide no service whatsoever to the Gen Ed kids who have to attend them. For too long, FCPS has catered to the AAP, 2E, etc. contingent, to the point that Gen Ed kids in center schools are merely an afterthought. These kids do not need to be lumped into the center environment any longer, where they are pretty much expected to run on autopilot while all the resources go to the AAP classes. Enough is enough, already. Centers should be a thing of the past by now and the focus needs to return to all of the other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. Be careful what you wish for. The AAP centers serve a valuable service to the students in non-center schools and IMO it should stay that way. I really don't think FCPS is capable of appropriately handling the mixed student body effectively. I agree they need to make a change but what will they do with all the 2E students. Non-center schools are already overburdened with ESOL and special education. The 2E learners need a spot to. I don't agree that an AAP center is the proper placement but it is working and our non-center school is much better because of it. So leave it alone. Elementary will be gone soon and trust me IT WILL NO MATTER.

Not the OP, but I wholeheartedly disagree. Center schools provide no service whatsoever to the Gen Ed kids who have to attend them. For too long, FCPS has catered to the AAP, 2E, etc. contingent, to the point that Gen Ed kids in center schools are merely an afterthought. These kids do not need to be lumped into the center environment any longer, where they are pretty much expected to run on autopilot while all the resources go to the AAP classes. Enough is enough, already. Centers should be a thing of the past by now and the focus needs to return to all of the other kids.

Richmond disagrees with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. Be careful what you wish for. The AAP centers serve a valuable service to the students in non-center schools and IMO it should stay that way. I really don't think FCPS is capable of appropriately handling the mixed student body effectively. I agree they need to make a change but what will they do with all the 2E students. Non-center schools are already overburdened with ESOL and special education. The 2E learners need a spot to. I don't agree that an AAP center is the proper placement but it is working and our non-center school is much better because of it. So leave it alone. Elementary will be gone soon and trust me IT WILL NO MATTER.

Not the OP, but I wholeheartedly disagree. Center schools provide no service whatsoever to the Gen Ed kids who have to attend them. For too long, FCPS has catered to the AAP, 2E, etc. contingent, to the point that Gen Ed kids in center schools are merely an afterthought. These kids do not need to be lumped into the center environment any longer, where they are pretty much expected to run on autopilot while all the resources go to the AAP classes. Enough is enough, already. Centers should be a thing of the past by now and the focus needs to return to all of the other kids.

Richmond disagrees with you.

And Richmond is known for making reasonable and sound decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. Be careful what you wish for. The AAP centers serve a valuable service to the students in non-center schools and IMO it should stay that way. I really don't think FCPS is capable of appropriately handling the mixed student body effectively. I agree they need to make a change but what will they do with all the 2E students. Non-center schools are already overburdened with ESOL and special education. The 2E learners need a spot to. I don't agree that an AAP center is the proper placement but it is working and our non-center school is much better because of it. So leave it alone. Elementary will be gone soon and trust me IT WILL NO MATTER.

Not the OP, but I wholeheartedly disagree. Center schools provide no service whatsoever to the Gen Ed kids who have to attend them. For too long, FCPS has catered to the AAP, 2E, etc. contingent, to the point that Gen Ed kids in center schools are merely an afterthought. These kids do not need to be lumped into the center environment any longer, where they are pretty much expected to run on autopilot while all the resources go to the AAP classes. Enough is enough, already. Centers should be a thing of the past by now and the focus needs to return to all of the other kids.

Richmond disagrees with you.

And Richmond is known for making reasonable and sound decisions.

Absolutely. Northern Virginia taxes rerouted to anywhere but Northern Virginia, etc.

[Anonymous]

I agree that the whole AAP system needs revamping. All children should benefit from a more challenging and structured environment and better teacher training.

AAP is no longer for the truly gifted. We prep our kids, send them to test prep classes, to give them the edge needed to get the scores.

I would be surprised if half the kids in AAP have an IQ over 140. I am not trying to knock AAP as I think it was created with a sound purpose; however, it has outlived it's usefulness and needs changing.

From what I have seen, GenPop in Public School is a joke. AAP is not much more challenging, but still more of a challenge than general. So yes, most kids would thrive with more stimulation. Take out the kids that need extra help and go from there.

Sorry to be slightly irritated here, but I am increasingly irritated with the decline in our Public schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the whole AAP system needs revamping. All children should benefit from a more challenging and structured environment and better teacher training.

AAP is no longer for the truly gifted. We prep our kids, send them to test prep classes, to give them the edge needed to get the scores.

I would be surprised if half the kids in AAP have an IQ over 140. I am not trying to knock AAP as I think it was created with a sound purpose; however, it has outlived it's usefulness and needs changing.

From what I have seen, GenPop in Public School is a joke. AAP is not much more challenging, but still more of a challenge than general. So yes, most kids would thrive with more stimulation. Take out the kids that need extra help and go from there.

Sorry to be slightly irritated here, but I am increasingly irritated with the decline in our Public schools

Totally agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the whole AAP system needs revamping. All children should benefit from a more challenging and structured environment and better teacher training.

AAP is no longer for the truly gifted. We prep our kids, send them to test prep classes, to give them the edge needed to get the scores.

I would be surprised if half the kids in AAP have an IQ over 140. I am not trying to knock AAP as I think it was created with a sound purpose; however, it has outlived it's usefulness and needs changing.

From what I have seen, GenPop in Public School is a joke. AAP is not much more challenging, but still more of a challenge than general. So yes, most kids would thrive with more stimulation. Take out the kids that need extra help and go from there.

Sorry to be slightly irritated here, but I am increasingly irritated with the decline in our Public schools

well if all children were in then it wouldn't be for the advanced now would it and would fail to meet the requirements of state law to accommodate the advanced learners.