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Anonymous wrote:Pete's father died and left his widow, Pete's mother, very little money. His is an old family that once had money.

She loved the sea...

Ha! You made me smile.

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As an obsessive watcher, let me clear everything up:

Joan made a huge sacrifice to land Jaguar. She was willing to prostitute herself because it made her a partner at the firm and would finally enable her to provide a secure life for her son. When they were in talks to go public, she was looking at becoming a millionaire (IIRC) overnight. Her personal humiliation would finally be worth it because her son would be set for life. Then Don fired Jaguar out of some mistaken attempt at chivalry. He made her feel like a whore. The move said that he was too good and pure to put up with this man professionally where Joan had already submitted to him sexually and at the same time it destroyed any hope of her being able to give her son the life she wants to.

Peggy is mad at Don because he and Ted spent the entire time they worked together playing mind games with her and fighting over her like a toy. She was happy in the old firm. She was doing brilliant creative work with a mentor who challenged and encouraged her and who was also in love with her. It was Don's decision to bring the firms together (and everyone else might have bought that it was mutual, but Peggy knows Don and Ted well enough to know that Ted was played) that destroyed her idyllic relationship with Ted. And finally, it was don who allowed Ted to run away to California after sleeping with Peggy. In her mind, Don destroyed her personally and professionally and he "broke" Ted.

Trudy had every reason to think Pete had plenty of money, but since she personally has plenty of money, it wasn't his money that mattered to her. She is new money and saw his blue blood background as very desirable and in her mind his WASP connections and budding career would give her a high class, glamorous life. While later Pete found he would never have family money, Trudy doesn't even bat an eyelash because she is the only child of her very wealthy parents. She is set.

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Anonymous wrote:As an obsessive watcher, let me clear everything up:

Joan made a huge sacrifice to land Jaguar. She was willing to prostitute herself because it made her a partner at the firm and would finally enable her to provide a secure life for her son. When they were in talks to go public, she was looking at becoming a millionaire (IIRC) overnight. Her personal humiliation would finally be worth it because her son would be set for life. Then Don fired Jaguar out of some mistaken attempt at chivalry. He made her feel like a whore. The move said that he was too good and pure to put up with this man professionally where Joan had already submitted to him sexually and at the same time it destroyed any hope of her being able to give her son the life she wants to.

Peggy is mad at Don because he and Ted spent the entire time they worked together playing mind games with her and fighting over her like a toy. She was happy in the old firm. She was doing brilliant creative work with a mentor who challenged and encouraged her and who was also in love with her. It was Don's decision to bring the firms together (and everyone else might have bought that it was mutual, but Peggy knows Don and Ted well enough to know that Ted was played) that destroyed her idyllic relationship with Ted. And finally, it was don who allowed Ted to run away to California after sleeping with Peggy. In her mind, Don destroyed her personally and professionally and he "broke" Ted.

Trudy had every reason to think Pete had plenty of money, but since she personally has plenty of money, it wasn't his money that mattered to her. She is new money and saw his blue blood background as very desirable and in her mind his WASP connections and budding career would give her a high class, glamorous life. While later Pete found he would never have family money, Trudy doesn't even bat an eyelash because she is the only child of her very wealthy parents. She is set.

well done.

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But even though Don fired Jaguar, Joan was already made partner for scoring that deal, right? So isn't she already set financially for life since she's partner? What am missing pp?

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Anonymous wrote:But even though Don fired Jaguar, Joan was already made partner for scoring that deal, right? So isn't she already set financially for life since she's partner? What am missing pp?

But she only makes money if she is a partner of a successful firm.

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"Not great Bob."

Hands down, my favorite line of dialogue. And I don't even like Pete.

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Anonymous wrote:Anna first appears in season 2 and dies in season 4.

The episode of her death is the finest episode of MM.

Maybe I missed something, but I never understood why Anna was so nice to Don. I guess it is because he took care of her financially?

I didn't understand why she was so sheepish with Don in the beginning. I mean he stole her husband's dogtags off his crispy, charred dead body and stole from his family (her) any closure and what ever kind of war time pension they could have gotten as a result of his death. It's just like Don to think about number one himself and no one else. She should have called the cops on him. It's understandable why Betty didn't turn him in. So much to lose with the kids. But Anna really had nothing to lose. And at the time Don was just a car salesman.

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I think Anna was really a representation of the kind, compassionate, forgiving mother that Don didn't have and desperately needed. She understood him implicitly, forgave him everything, was always there for him.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Anna was really a representation of the kind, compassionate, forgiving mother that Don didn't have and desperately needed. She understood him implicitly, forgave him everything, was always there for him.

+1. And Don took care of her well, and they bonded over the years. "The Suitcase" is a great episode.

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I am just glad that Don is back.

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I found all the scenes with Margaret in "the monolith" (5/4's episode) to be disturbing. This will prob. get worse -- she will end up a drug addict, part of a cult (if her commune isn't already one), or pregnant with a drug affected child. The irony is that her dad got away with much of her behavior while still maintaining his mainstream life.

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Anonymous wrote:I found all the scenes with Margaret in "the monolith" (5/4's episode) to be disturbing. This will prob. get worse -- she will end up a drug addict, part of a cult (if her commune isn't already one), or pregnant with a drug affected child. The irony is that her dad got away with much of her behavior while still maintaining his mainstream life.

Eh, it's not like she was doing crack or heroin or something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if things get worse for her, but it could just as easily end up with her coming back home to her family next episode.

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Anonymous wrote:I found all the scenes with Margaret in "the monolith" (5/4's episode) to be disturbing. This will prob. get worse -- she will end up a drug addict, part of a cult (if her commune isn't already one), or pregnant with a drug affected child. The irony is that her dad got away with much of her behavior while still maintaining his mainstream life.

Roger IS getting away with it. He's sleeping with all sorts of people and is dropping acid. Not to mention his smoking and drinking.

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I just hope that Don and Peggy kick butt on this next campaign. They are two incredibly creative people, so I would love to see it, and watch Lou fail.

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Is anyone doing the Mad Men on Facebook recaps this season?