Mad Men is back

[Anonymous]

mufch better 2nd episode.

[Anonymous]

totally agree. last night's episode was much better than the first episode.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone else find Lou completely annoying? Where did he come from, anyway?

[Anonymous]

Great episode this week. I loved Betty's reappearance and Don and Megan's confrontation. Peggy was a major bitch to Don for no reason. Ugh...Just when I begin to root for her...

[Anonymous]

Francine returned.

[Anonymous]

Was the woman who approached Don at the restaurant interview with the other firm the same girl who was Anna Draper's niece (or cousin?) a few seasons back when Anna died? And maybe he didn't recognize her because she looked so NY instead of California? Curious what was up with her.

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Anonymous wrote:Great episode this week. I loved Betty's reappearance and Don and Megan's confrontation. Peggy was a major bitch to Don for no reason. Ugh...Just when I begin to root for her...

Well...he treated her pretty crappily the last time they saw each other, so she's justified in not liking him anymore. If you want to hate Peggy, hate her for her treatment of Shirley last week!

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Anonymous wrote:Great episode this week. I loved Betty's reappearance and Don and Megan's confrontation. Peggy was a major bitch to Don for no reason. Ugh...Just when I begin to root for her...

If Don comes back, it is not good for Peggy.

She thought she was going to be the next big thing at Sterling Cooper after Don left. I think she felt he was in her way of really being successful because he turned her down a lot and challenged her a lot (I think Don has always admired Peggy and is challenging her like a loving father - but that is me). However, they brought in Lou, who doesn't like Peggy, for whatever reason (he feels threatened? She is a woman? ) so she isn't able to really do what she wants to do and be as creative as she wants to be because Lou is stiffling her.

now, if DOn comes back, her success with either be attributed to him (which she will resent - and maybe already does because she may already think her success was because of him) or she will have to compete with him to get her stuff out there.

And don't forget, he threw that money in her face. I thought that was the worst thing ever.

[Anonymous]

Just started watching season one, so far really like it!

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Don treats the women who are important to him harshly. Witness him with Dawn at the beginning of the ep on the phone. Just about the only one he hasn't outright lashed out at when he's in a corner is Sally. I think that would be the writers signaling that he is beyond redemption if he did that. That he still manages to right his ship when dealing with her is about the only positive thing about his relationships with women.

I thought his scene with Roger was FABULOUS and sheds light on this dynamic. It had that same harsh character but was really a negotiation, and he was very very comfortable with it. He and Roger, being equals on paper but Roger having more power at the moment, could speak that way to each other safely. It made me wonder about whether he feels that women have power over him and when he snaps at them he's sort of expecting them to push back as Roger did. It's certainly what he loved about Megan at first (thinking of their fight/foreplay romps).

I must say I am not quite believing his arc in this ep. He sat in the workroom the whole workday, alone for half of it or more, doing what? Thinking what? And then took the offer?

[Anonymous]

Why was Joan so mean to Don then?

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Anonymous wrote:Don treats the women who are important to him harshly. Witness him with Dawn at the beginning of the ep on the phone. Just about the only one he hasn't outright lashed out at when he's in a corner is Sally. I think that would be the writers signaling that he is beyond redemption if he did that. That he still manages to right his ship when dealing with her is about the only positive thing about his relationships with women.

I thought his scene with Roger was FABULOUS and sheds light on this dynamic. It had that same harsh character but was really a negotiation, and he was very very comfortable with it. He and Roger, being equals on paper but Roger having more power at the moment, could speak that way to each other safely. It made me wonder about whether he feels that women have power over him and when he snaps at them he's sort of expecting them to push back as Roger did. It's certainly what he loved about Megan at first (thinking of their fight/foreplay romps).

I must say I am not quite believing his arc in this ep. He sat in the workroom the whole workday, alone for half of it or more, doing what? Thinking what? And then took the offer?

When they offered Don those stipulations, I thought 'Tell them to Eff off Don!" and when he said yes, I was shocked. But I have been thinking...

Of course he said yes. Don needs to be back in the game AND he likes a challenge. He got there and creative was all over him, desperate to get his input. They need him there and now Don knows it. I am sure he knows he can easily overthrow Lou (or make it so miserable for Lou that they will get rid of him). THe partners think he is still crazy Don, but he isn't. He told Megan the truth: No more women, not as much drinking, so he isn't really changing that much of himself right now so these stipulations aren't bad. He has the support of creative, Roger and Pete. He will get it back from Bert and Joan.

Don is now oozing with confidence. He is about to make his comeback.

He was on his way out until Michael called him back in. I think that is when he got his confidence back. He knows they need him there.

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So sad for sweet little Bobby; Betty is such a narcissistic b*tch--totally unlovable and manipulative.

Megan is unhinged, though she does have a point about Don. I wonder if she is pregnant? Hmmm.

Love Don. Rooting for him. Glad that is is rebuffing the advances of hot women and drinking tomato juice. The whole scene when he returned to the office was a sh*t show--loved it.

I also thought maybe the blonde in the restaurant was Anna Draper's niece! Weird.

Roger kicked ass this episode. Joan annoyed me. And Peggy...she is still on my list from last week after treating her secretary so poorly.

Also--Dawn is maybe the nicest person ever on Mad Men. Hope she is able to push back on Don a little and focus on her promotion.

[Anonymous]

I keep waiting for them to bring back the gay art director from season 1.

Lou is so annoying. Is he a partner or just a hired guy?

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Anonymous wrote:So sad for sweet little Bobby; Betty is such a narcissistic b*tch--totally unlovable and manipulative.

Megan is unhinged, though she does have a point about Don. I wonder if she is pregnant? Hmmm.

Love Don. Rooting for him. Glad that is is rebuffing the advances of hot women and drinking tomato juice. The whole scene when he returned to the office was a sh*t show--loved it.

I also thought maybe the blonde in the restaurant was Anna Draper's niece! Weird.

Roger kicked ass this episode. Joan annoyed me. And Peggy...she is still on my list from last week after treating her secretary so poorly.

Also--Dawn is maybe the nicest person ever on Mad Men. Hope she is able to push back on Don a little and focus on her promotion.

Betty is awful. I couldn't believe she didn't eat the rest of the day just to spite poor Bobby.

Definitely think Megan is pregnant. Did you read the whole "Rosemary's Baby" theory? It is fascinating (page two of this thread, I believe). Looks like Megan could be a goner.

I want the "old" Don back, but I like the less drinking and women. I just want him on top again!

Love Roger, but don't get the hippy "free love" thing. It grosses me out.