Why can't I transfer my Gen Ed child out of the center?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that that this poster hates saying that her kid goes to school X and, no, isn't in AAP.

Not a kid problem. A parent problem. And I guarantee that keeping AAP and GE kids apart will not prevent mean things from being said at recess.

And I don't know what is going on with the random 2E comments... I'm tempted to attribute it to sour grapes, but I'll charitably assume that it was misunderstood statistics instead.

No, not in AAP and don't want AAP and do not want the 2E AAP kids in my GE school. They belong together in their own center. OP wants to transfer a GE child out of a center school environment. I think she/he should be able to. Just as 2E parents lobby for their child to be in AAP, non-aap parents should be able to lobby for their child to be removed from an AAP center school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dislike the 2E expression myself. It doesn't tell you much and IMO it is way over used. I also loathe it when people shorten SPecial education to SPED. But there you go, we can't control everything.

So what do you want them to be called GE - that wouldn't be good enough either.

It's the "exceptional" label that grates. All kids are exceptional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There must be some number FCPS can come up with that says if there are X number of AAP level students they do not require bussing to a center. There are some schools in Mclean and Great Falls particularly where if all the kids from that school stayed in the LLIV program, there would be more children in AAP at that base school than some of the already designated centers which 3-5 schools feed into.

Completely true. It's unbelievable that kids from Great Falls and Forestville, among others, have tons of kids bused to Colvin Run when they could fill up multiple AAP classes at their own base schools. Why are they even given the option of busing if LLIV is already offered at their school?

[Anonymous]

Do the numbers below include students who are Level 2 and Level 3 students? Do some of these students both have an IEP and a 504?

DSS staff reports, “1,558 twice exceptional students, identified gifted students with a disability who are receiving services, and additionally 3,058 gifted students with a disability who have a 504 Plan.?25

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that that this poster hates saying that her kid goes to school X and, no, isn't in AAP.

Not a kid problem. A parent problem. And I guarantee that keeping AAP and GE kids apart will not prevent mean things from being said at recess.

And I don't know what is going on with the random 2E comments... I'm tempted to attribute it to sour grapes, but I'll charitably assume that it was misunderstood statistics instead.

No, not in AAP and don't want AAP and do not want the 2E AAP kids in my GE school. They belong together in their own center. OP wants to transfer a GE child out of a center school environment. I think she/he should be able to. Just as 2E parents lobby for their child to be in AAP, non-aap parents should be able to lobby for their child to be removed from an AAP center school.

OP here; thank you for summing up the issue, PP. It's really as simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that that this poster hates saying that her kid goes to school X and, no, isn't in AAP.

Not a kid problem. A parent problem. And I guarantee that keeping AAP and GE kids apart will not prevent mean things from being said at recess.

And I don't know what is going on with the random 2E comments... I'm tempted to attribute it to sour grapes, but I'll charitably assume that it was misunderstood statistics instead.

No, not in AAP and don't want AAP and do not want the 2E AAP kids in my GE school. They belong together in their own center. OP wants to transfer a GE child out of a center school environment. I think she/he should be able to. Just as 2E parents lobby for their child to be in AAP, non-aap parents should be able to lobby for their child to be removed from an AAP center school.

OP here; thank you for summing up the issue, PP. It's really as simple as that.

Seriously? Not for any positive reason, but because they don't want their kids near the corrosive influence of the AAP kids? That is beyond weird.

Tell me that your kid needs something to learn, then okay. But if you tell me your kids need not be around a certain type of person… That's sketchy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the numbers below include students who are Level 2 and Level 3 students? Do some of these students both have an IEP and a 504?

DSS staff reports, “1,558 twice exceptional students, identified gifted students with a disability who are receiving services, and additionally 3,058 gifted students with a disability who have a 504 Plan.?25

No I do not think so. I think it was referring to AAP center placement. The article is linked above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There must be some number FCPS can come up with that says if there are X number of AAP level students they do not require bussing to a center. There are some schools in Mclean and Great Falls particularly where if all the kids from that school stayed in the LLIV program, there would be more children in AAP at that base school than some of the already designated centers which 3-5 schools feed into.

I believe these overcrowded center schools are likely to be altered so that the larger feeder schools will have local level IV and the overcrowded center will be closed to new students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that that this poster hates saying that her kid goes to school X and, no, isn't in AAP.

Not a kid problem. A parent problem. And I guarantee that keeping AAP and GE kids apart will not prevent mean things from being said at recess.

And I don't know what is going on with the random 2E comments... I'm tempted to attribute it to sour grapes, but I'll charitably assume that it was misunderstood statistics instead.

No, not in AAP and don't want AAP and do not want the 2E AAP kids in my GE school. They belong together in their own center. OP wants to transfer a GE child out of a center school environment. I think she/he should be able to. Just as 2E parents lobby for their child to be in AAP, non-aap parents should be able to lobby for their child to be removed from an AAP center school.

OP here; thank you for summing up the issue, PP. It's really as simple as that.

Seriously? Not for any positive reason, but because they don't want their kids near the corrosive influence of the AAP kids? That is beyond weird.

Tell me that your kid needs something to learn, then okay. But if you tell me your kids need not be around a certain type of person… That's sketchy.

There is nothing sketchy unless you agree the AAP parents who do not want their kids in a GE school are sketchy. Then all are sketchy. Not all, in fact a large percentage, of students in AAP are in on referral many because the parents feel their child was not successful socially in their GE school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There must be some number FCPS can come up with that says if there are X number of AAP level students they do not require bussing to a center. There are some schools in Mclean and Great Falls particularly where if all the kids from that school stayed in the LLIV program, there would be more children in AAP at that base school than some of the already designated centers which 3-5 schools feed into.

I believe these overcrowded center schools are likely to be altered so that the larger feeder schools will have local level IV and the overcrowded center will be closed to new students.

Hopefully it will be delayed for a few more years. Want to get my kids out of elementary first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dislike the 2E expression myself. It doesn't tell you much and IMO it is way over used. I also loathe it when people shorten SPecial education to SPED. But there you go, we can't control everything.

So what do you want them to be called GE - that wouldn't be good enough either.

It is way to broad. There are many different types of "2E", some even have more than 2. It doesn't really give any usable information. A gifted child with ADHD is different from a gifted child with an LD and they are different than a gifted chlid with ASD and they are different from a child with RAD or bi-polar or whatever and they are different from a child with 3 or more issues............ They each need different approaches and each have different mixes of assets and deficits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dislike the 2E expression myself. It doesn't tell you much and IMO it is way over used. I also loathe it when people shorten SPecial education to SPED. But there you go, we can't control everything.

So what do you want them to be called GE - that wouldn't be good enough either.

It is way to broad. There are many different types of "2E", some even have more than 2. It doesn't really give any usable information. A gifted child with ADHD is different from a gifted child with an LD and they are different than a gifted chlid with ASD and they are different from a child with RAD or bi-polar or whatever and they are different from a child with 3 or more issues............ They each need different approaches and each have different mixes of assets and deficits.

OH I see. GE isn't broad enough anymore. There you go1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the numbers below include students who are Level 2 and Level 3 students? Do some of these students both have an IEP and a 504?

DSS staff reports, “1,558 twice exceptional students, identified gifted students with a disability who are receiving services, and additionally 3,058 gifted students with a disability who have a 504 Plan.?25

I don't know the answer to your other questions, but IEP and 504 are one or the other- no one has both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There must be some number FCPS can come up with that says if there are X number of AAP level students they do not require bussing to a center. There are some schools in Mclean and Great Falls particularly where if all the kids from that school stayed in the LLIV program, there would be more children in AAP at that base school than some of the already designated centers which 3-5 schools feed into.

I believe these overcrowded center schools are likely to be altered so that the larger feeder schools will have local level IV and the overcrowded center will be closed to new students.

Hopefully it will be delayed for a few more years. Want to get my kids out of elementary first.

The first round of changes to overcrowded centers would start in 2015-2016.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that that this poster hates saying that her kid goes to school X and, no, isn't in AAP.

Not a kid problem. A parent problem. And I guarantee that keeping AAP and GE kids apart will not prevent mean things from being said at recess.

And I don't know what is going on with the random 2E comments... I'm tempted to attribute it to sour grapes, but I'll charitably assume that it was misunderstood statistics instead.

No, not in AAP and don't want AAP and do not want the 2E AAP kids in my GE school. They belong together in their own center. OP wants to transfer a GE child out of a center school environment. I think she/he should be able to. Just as 2E parents lobby for their child to be in AAP, non-aap parents should be able to lobby for their child to be removed from an AAP center school.

OP here; thank you for summing up the issue, PP. It's really as simple as that.

Seriously? Not for any positive reason, but because they don't want their kids near the corrosive influence of the AAP kids? That is beyond weird.

Tell me that your kid needs something to learn, then okay. But if you tell me your kids need not be around a certain type of person… That's sketchy.

There is nothing sketchy unless you agree the AAP parents who do not want their kids in a GE school are sketchy. Then all are sketchy. Not all, in fact a large percentage, of students in AAP are in on referral many because the parents feel their child was not successful socially in their GE school.

Citation needed. I think you just made that up.

I'd hazard that most of the AAP parents want their kid in appropriately paced classes. How does that translate to not being around GE kids? You are taking this wayyyyyyy too personally.