Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

food stamp fraud is going down because of electronic cards. The states issue them and monitor them.

Or do we just think it is going down? Fraud is much easier with those cards. It enables people to purchase all sorts of things that are not allowed. It also enables them to be easily sold.

you are ignorant. No one is going to sell the card that gives them access to all of their benefits. It's used fir everything not just food stamps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

food stamp fraud is going down because of electronic cards. The states issue them and monitor them.

Or do we just think it is going down? Fraud is much easier with those cards. It enables people to purchase all sorts of things that are not allowed. It also enables them to be easily sold.

you are ignorant. No one is going to sell the card that gives them access to all of their benefits. It's used fir everything not just food stamps.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/us/food-stamp-fraud/
You should really do some research before you call someone ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

food stamp fraud is going down because of electronic cards. The states issue them and monitor them.

Or do we just think it is going down? Fraud is much easier with those cards. It enables people to purchase all sorts of things that are not allowed. It also enables them to be easily sold.

you are ignorant. No one is going to sell the card that gives them access to all of their benefits. It's used fir everything not just food stamps.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/us/food-stamp-fraud/
You should really do some research before you call someone ignorant.

Sorry it is not much easier with those cards. They can't keep selling their cards because they have to ask for a replacement each time. Unlike with the paper food stamps. This is why fraud has dropped to 1/4 of pre-card levels.

Conservatives live on anecdotes. Liberals go by statistics.

[Anonymous]

People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

They also can get "cash" with the cards. Did you not see the story about the marijuana stores in Colorado that have ATM machines that accept EBT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

[Anonymous]

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

So, you are cool with spending the money on drugs? Great. Just great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

So, you are cool with spending the money on drugs? Great. Just great.

I didn't say that. But Republicans give poor people EITC, and there are no restrictions on what you can do with that money. So your argument flies in the face of the Republican approach to poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

If they are reselling it, that suggests they didn't really need it and probably shouldn't be getting it. If you don't like my opinion or attitude, fix the problems. I'll be happy to change my mind when the situation changes, but until then if you are excusing or defending it then you're part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, Ryan is telling the truth.

As a teacher, I agree . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
From my experience, Ryan is telling the truth.


As a teacher, I agree . . .

Ryan is clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those articles are two years old. If you think there is only 1% fraud in food stamps, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

I call fraud on your tender of a bridge!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

If they are reselling it, that suggests they didn't really need it and probably shouldn't be getting it. If you don't like my opinion or attitude, fix the problems. I'll be happy to change my mind when the situation changes, but until then if you are excusing or defending it then you're part of the problem.

So as long as you can ever find a case of fraud, you object to government programs to help the poor. I suppose you won't drive a car until someone makes one that causes zero deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

If they are reselling it, that suggests they didn't really need it and probably shouldn't be getting it. If you don't like my opinion or attitude, fix the problems. I'll be happy to change my mind when the situation changes, but until then if you are excusing or defending it then you're part of the problem.

So as long as you can ever find a case of fraud, you object to government programs to help the poor. I suppose you won't drive a car until someone makes one that causes zero deaths.

One or two individuals committing fraud here and there is one thing but the article above talking about Baltimore indicated that 39 businesses were actively participating in welfare fraud as well. And that's just Baltimore. To me that indicates a big and widespread fraud problem that is institutionalized. Again, as long as you are deflecting, minimizing and denying, you are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People don't have to sell the cards - they can resell the items they buy and in fact it happens all the time on Craigslist and elsewhere.

So basically the only program that would satisfy a republican is a lunch counter where you eat and then leave, fully supervised the whole time. Because if you give something to a person, they might resell it.

Fabulous.

If they are reselling it, that suggests they didn't really need it and probably shouldn't be getting it. If you don't like my opinion or attitude, fix the problems. I'll be happy to change my mind when the situation changes, but until then if you are excusing or defending it then you're part of the problem.

So as long as you can ever find a case of fraud, you object to government programs to help the poor. I suppose you won't drive a car until someone makes one that causes zero deaths.

One or two individuals committing fraud here and there is one thing but the article above talking about Baltimore indicated that 39 businesses were actively participating in welfare fraud as well. And that's just Baltimore. To me that indicates a big and widespread fraud problem that is institutionalized. Again, as long as you are deflecting, minimizing and denying, you are part of the problem.

The fact is that the rate of fraud is about 1%, which is about as good as it gets. Shoplifting takes more than 1% off a business. Tax cheats cost us 10% of revenues. If the DoD was held to a standard of <1% of misuse, we would have no military.