Admission process transparency

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter in that it’s a private school that you are applying to that has the right to share however little or much it chooses. They are not receiving any kind of federal funds, so no disclosure requirement.

It would be great if they published data, but they don’t and they won’t. Because their class sizes are so much smaller than even the smallest college, data can be misleading as well.

In a nutshell, they feel like they are doing a good job of building classes. The parents agree enough to keep their kids in the schools. And prospective parents agree enough that most of them have many times the number of applications than they have spots. It’s working for the only constituencies that matter and is unlikely to change.

There are enough private schools to land somewhere. People get upset about being rejected from Sidwell, STA/NCS, GDS, Maret, Potomac, and the more competitive schools then want to demand transparency.

Go where your DC is wanted. Forget the rest

I agree with that. I am not requesting the right of admission, but the right of receiving information, by the way.

You don’t have "the right of receiving information"

Correct, which is why I'm requesting it. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I guess

You are requesting the right?

Yes

If you have rights, you don’t have to request them.

What are you asking for?

lol George Wallace has entered the chat

Do you request the right to free speech?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

Sure, in the same way you could ask a politician if she wants more transparency.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter in that it’s a private school that you are applying to that has the right to share however little or much it chooses. They are not receiving any kind of federal funds, so no disclosure requirement.

It would be great if they published data, but they don’t and they won’t. Because their class sizes are so much smaller than even the smallest college, data can be misleading as well.

In a nutshell, they feel like they are doing a good job of building classes. The parents agree enough to keep their kids in the schools. And prospective parents agree enough that most of them have many times the number of applications than they have spots. It’s working for the only constituencies that matter and is unlikely to change.

That is true in theory, except that private schools receive significant tax exemptions. For example, non-profit organizations also receive tax exemptions, but in return they must publicly disclose data about their operations. Likewise, when you rent an apartment, the landlord cannot reject your application based on opaque reasons, and the applicant has the right to ask for and obtain information. How can anyone be protected against racial discrimination in school admissions if the system remains so opaque?

You have made these same comparisons before in other threads, many people have explained why they are different. You are not learning or convincing anyone else. Why do you persist?

Just because you don't have a good argument or don't agree doesn't mean that OP can't make their points. This is a message board where people are supposed to debate and express their thoughts on things after all. You should try it.

This same OP starts dozens of nonsense threads and then argues with everyone until it gets locked or people tire of her. Always some accusation of discrimination and unfairness that makes no sense. My thoughts are that this OP should find a new hobby.

I'm sorry you think it's nonsense to want transparency in the admissions process. It's an exhausting process, and we have the right to know so we don't get so tired applying to all these schools

Stop applying to these schools then, they don’t want you and it makes you tired.

Stop with all of these nonsense threads OP, you are getting nowhere and your signature formula of question about inequality + tireless arguing about your rights + sarcasm toward everyone who disagrees with you = thread getting locked or abandoned. There is a reason people don’t want you in their community

Why do private schools parents get so threatened whenever someone points out something about their system that's not ideal?

It is not ideal for you, but the system works great for others. Your repeated arguments against a system you don’t understand are ineffective and just show your ignorance.

When all you have left are ad hominem attacks, you're losing

My family has been accepted to every top school we’ve ever applied to, so really we’re winning. Keep trolling, OP!

With an opaque system I am not surprised. Maybe in an open and transparent system that wouldn’t happen. Is that te reason you don’t like this topic?

I like this topic, the current system works well and it’s not about to change. Keep trolling!

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter in that it’s a private school that you are applying to that has the right to share however little or much it chooses. They are not receiving any kind of federal funds, so no disclosure requirement.

It would be great if they published data, but they don’t and they won’t. Because their class sizes are so much smaller than even the smallest college, data can be misleading as well.

In a nutshell, they feel like they are doing a good job of building classes. The parents agree enough to keep their kids in the schools. And prospective parents agree enough that most of them have many times the number of applications than they have spots. It’s working for the only constituencies that matter and is unlikely to change.

That is true in theory, except that private schools receive significant tax exemptions. For example, non-profit organizations also receive tax exemptions, but in return they must publicly disclose data about their operations. Likewise, when you rent an apartment, the landlord cannot reject your application based on opaque reasons, and the applicant has the right to ask for and obtain information. How can anyone be protected against racial discrimination in school admissions if the system remains so opaque?

You have made these same comparisons before in other threads, many people have explained why they are different. You are not learning or convincing anyone else. Why do you persist?

Just because you don't have a good argument or don't agree doesn't mean that OP can't make their points. This is a message board where people are supposed to debate and express their thoughts on things after all. You should try it.

This same OP starts dozens of nonsense threads and then argues with everyone until it gets locked or people tire of her. Always some accusation of discrimination and unfairness that makes no sense. My thoughts are that this OP should find a new hobby.

I'm sorry you think it's nonsense to want transparency in the admissions process. It's an exhausting process, and we have the right to know so we don't get so tired applying to all these schools

Stop applying to these schools then, they don’t want you and it makes you tired.

Stop with all of these nonsense threads OP, you are getting nowhere and your signature formula of question about inequality + tireless arguing about your rights + sarcasm toward everyone who disagrees with you = thread getting locked or abandoned. There is a reason people don’t want you in their community

Why do private schools parents get so threatened whenever someone points out something about their system that's not ideal?

It is not ideal for you, but the system works great for others. Your repeated arguments against a system you don’t understand are ineffective and just show your ignorance.

When all you have left are ad hominem attacks, you're losing

My family has been accepted to every top school we’ve ever applied to, so really we’re winning. Keep trolling, OP!

With an opaque system I am not surprised. Maybe in an open and transparent system that wouldn’t happen. Is that te reason you don’t like this topic?

I like this topic, the current system works well and it’s not about to change. Keep trolling!

Luckily it changed in colleges. Who knows, one day could be the turn of private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

I suspect the truth is the school found her extremely aggravating in the admissions process and decided not to admit a problem family. How do you want to reflect this in the data?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

Sure, in the same way you could ask a politician if she wants more transparency.

A politician is a public official. Public is not private. Why is this so hard?

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Some people are so entitled. Private school admission is not a right. Private education is a commodity. A limited commodity.

I don’t have a dog in this fight. My kid goes to public school and I have no interest in private school.

But I don’t blame private schools for not sharing data. For the same reason that if a candidate is rejected for a job, the hiring manager is not going to detail why the applicant was rejected. It just creates more headaches I imagine, in the form of pointless back-and-forth.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

I suspect the truth is the school found her extremely aggravating in the admissions process and decided not to admit a problem family. How do you want to reflect this in the data?

First time I heard that requesting data means a problem family. Sounds a lot like a a mob enterprise. Very easy. If there is no wrongdoing, there is no harm in releasing the data.

[Anonymous]

The troll thrives on the debate in all of her threads, even when she’s completely wrong and perhaps she’s even arguing a point she doesn’t agree with. That’s where she gets her twisted a sense of excitement. There’s no good faith to any of her posts. She’s not truly trying to learn anything or solve any problems. She’s just using you for her entertainment. Accumulating over seven pages of responses and just one morning is such a stimulant and so empowering. Ignore her. Let this thread disappear into obscurity.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

Sure, in the same way you could ask a politician if she wants more transparency.

A politician is a public official. Public is not private. Why is this so hard?

Sure, what can wrong if you don’t release your data? There is no way the school admissions can make mistakes. Thats not possible.

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Anonymous wrote:The troll thrives on the debate in all of her threads, even when she’s completely wrong and perhaps she’s even arguing a point she doesn’t agree with. That’s where she gets her twisted a sense of excitement. There’s no good faith to any of her posts. She’s not truly trying to learn anything or solve any problems. She’s just using you for her entertainment. Accumulating over seven pages of responses and just one morning is such a stimulant and so empowering. Ignore her. Let this thread disappear into obscurity.

Yes, don’t post in this thread. We don’t want to discuss an admission system that gives more chances to people without wealth and connections.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

I suspect the truth is the school found her extremely aggravating in the admissions process and decided not to admit a problem family. How do you want to reflect this in the data?

First time I heard that requesting data means a problem family. Sounds a lot like a a mob enterprise. Very easy. If there is no wrongdoing, there is no harm in releasing the data.

So unless someone releases data, they are involved in wrongdoing?

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What would be the incentive for a school to release these data? These are businesses.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP, from the POV of the schools, the system is working almost perfectly and they have no interest in helping you feel better by providing hard data about acceptances.

I suspect the truth is the school found her extremely aggravating in the admissions process and decided not to admit a problem family. How do you want to reflect this in the data?

First time I heard that requesting data means a problem family. Sounds a lot like a a mob enterprise. Very easy. If there is no wrongdoing, there is no harm in releasing the data.

So unless someone releases data, they are involved in wrongdoing?

Not all. It is a logical statement. If you have not done anything wrong, no harm will occur from releasing the data.

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Anonymous wrote:What would be the incentive for a school to release these data? These are businesses.

Non-profits in most cases. Also they are required to release publicly their tax filings. Interesting don’t you think?