New USNWR rankings coming out in one week. Post predictions here!

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Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

georgetown is exactly where they belong. us news is not a selectivity rank but quality of programs. georgetown has no science or engineering programs and is lacking in top programs in general save for sfs which is losing relevance. mcdonough business is very meh.

even if it were selectivity based, what schools above is it actually more selectivity than? most already have single digit acceptance rates

[Anonymous]

here are acceptance rates btw:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/dML68nQmSU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

georgetown is exactly where they belong. us news is not a selectivity rank but quality of programs. georgetown has no science or engineering programs and is lacking in top programs in general save for sfs which is losing relevance. mcdonough business is very meh.

even if it were selectivity based, what schools above is it actually more selectivity than? most already have single digit acceptance rates

US News is off, is the point.
As for selectivity, you are simply ignorant. Georgetown has no ED and is not on the common app. ED brings down admissions rates; ED2 brings them way down. The better question, for you, is — once normalized — which non-HYPS schools in the top 25 are actually more selective than Georgetown? Certainly not Chicago, for instance…
The better question is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's like the week before Christmas for helicopter parents, prestige chasers, and assorted Karens. The new USNWR rankings drop on the 23rd, so post your predictions here. Who's rising, who's falling, who's gaming the system? Let's see what your top 50 looks like for national unis and LACs. Don't bother responding with crap like "get a life" or "who cares." By virtue of even lurking on this forum, we already know you're counting down the days, Karen!

US News rankings are mere entertainment at this point. They jumped the shark further with each intentional push of public universities via increase of social mobility factor weight in the formula.

If you are intent on getting the popcorn ready, better get cooking. Typically, the ranking release begins leaking unannounced on the US News website on a Sunday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

georgetown is exactly where they belong. us news is not a selectivity rank but quality of programs. georgetown has no science or engineering programs and is lacking in top programs in general save for sfs which is losing relevance. mcdonough business is very meh.

even if it were selectivity based, what schools above is it actually more selectivity than? most already have single digit acceptance rates

US News is off, is the point.
As for selectivity, you are simply ignorant. Georgetown has no ED and is not on the common app. ED brings down admissions rates; ED2 brings them way down. The better question, for you, is — once normalized — which non-HYPS schools in the top 25 are actually more selective than Georgetown? Certainly not Chicago, for instance…
The better question is

you are grasping for straws here. chicago even before these ed games was more selective than georgetown. most of the privates could go EA and still be as selective. If the schools really wanted to game the system, they could just take more off waitlists vs ED which they dont do

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's like the week before Christmas for helicopter parents, prestige chasers, and assorted Karens. The new USNWR rankings drop on the 23rd, so post your predictions here. Who's rising, who's falling, who's gaming the system? Let's see what your top 50 looks like for national unis and LACs. Don't bother responding with crap like "get a life" or "who cares." By virtue of even lurking on this forum, we already know you're counting down the days, Karen!

US News rankings are mere entertainment at this point. They jumped the shark further with each intentional push of public universities via increase of social mobility factor weight in the formula.

If you are intent on getting the popcorn ready, better get cooking. Typically, the ranking release begins leaking unannounced on the US News website on a Sunday night.

I actually bet you that Merced will go down in rankings, not because of any change of their methodology so much, but because of bad Merced publicity as an obvious example of how ridiculous the rankings have become. Reed reverse-engineered rankings at one point and found, even using US News methodology, that Reed was ranked lower than it should be. A similar “tweak” will be performed for Merced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

georgetown is exactly where they belong. us news is not a selectivity rank but quality of programs. georgetown has no science or engineering programs and is lacking in top programs in general save for sfs which is losing relevance. mcdonough business is very meh.

even if it were selectivity based, what schools above is it actually more selectivity than? most already have single digit acceptance rates

US News is off, is the point.
As for selectivity, you are simply ignorant. Georgetown has no ED and is not on the common app. ED brings down admissions rates; ED2 brings them way down. The better question, for you, is — once normalized — which non-HYPS schools in the top 25 are actually more selective than Georgetown? Certainly not Chicago, for instance…
The better question is

you are grasping for straws here. chicago even before these ed games was more selective than georgetown. most of the privates could go EA and still be as selective. If the schools really wanted to game the system, they could just take more off waitlists vs ED which they dont do

Chicago takes 70% of class ED.
Georgetown could likely double its apps simply by adopting the common app.
Math is not your friend, but keep drinking Kool-Aid and, by all means, hold onto your straw.

[Anonymous]

Just because Georgetown is Test required doesn't mean its harder to get into than other Top schools.
A 12% acceptance rate and 30-35 test score range. Georgetown is seemingly the easiest private school in the top25 to get into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because Georgetown is Test required doesn't mean its harder to get into than other Top schools.
A 12% acceptance rate and 30-35 test score range. Georgetown is seemingly the easiest private school in the top25 to get into.

Hard to argue with plain silliness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

georgetown is exactly where they belong. us news is not a selectivity rank but quality of programs. georgetown has no science or engineering programs and is lacking in top programs in general save for sfs which is losing relevance. mcdonough business is very meh.

even if it were selectivity based, what schools above is it actually more selectivity than? most already have single digit acceptance rates

US News is off, is the point.
As for selectivity, you are simply ignorant. Georgetown has no ED and is not on the common app. ED brings down admissions rates; ED2 brings them way down. The better question, for you, is — once normalized — which non-HYPS schools in the top 25 are actually more selective than Georgetown? Certainly not Chicago, for instance…
The better question is

you are grasping for straws here. chicago even before these ed games was more selective than georgetown. most of the privates could go EA and still be as selective. If the schools really wanted to game the system, they could just take more off waitlists vs ED which they dont do

Chicago takes 70% of class ED.
Georgetown could likely double its apps simply by adopting the common app.
Math is not your friend, but keep drinking Kool-Aid and, by all means, hold onto your straw.

D.P. This is one of the most pointless pissing contests I have seen. Congratulations. Please evaluate your life and ask why you have so many strong feelings about UChicago or Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T25 ranking:

1 – 5 HYPMS
6 – 10 Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11- 14 Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Cornell
15 – 16 Columbia, UChicago
17 – 18 Rice, Notre Dame
19 – 22 UCLA, Berkeley, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon
23 – 25 Emory, Georgetown, UMich

Shouldn't Georgetown be higher? Otherwise sounds about right.

19-25 isn't right. USNWR will continue to have ties like they did this year. I think Emory is out of 25 and WUSTL is too high.

Emory is fine and so is WashU. The school thats most precarious is Georgetown. The t25 with the lowest endowment.

But Georgetown is one of the schools that shows how off USNews is. A tougher admit than 1/2 the schools on this list, and super prestigious for what it does. Once it adopts the common app, its acceptance rate will be well into the single digits — without ED. At a certain point you have to listen to kids (who are very prestige-conscious) and how they are voting with their feet.

How is GU more selective than Emory and WashU? Yes Emory ED is higher than GU EA or RD. But Emory RD is harder than either GU round.

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Georgetown is accepting common app on a 3 year trial basis starting Fall 2026.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown:
all tests required. No superscore. Discourages superscore-reliant applications.
All tests required, so no TO applications.
Has own application and not on common app (that is changing). Discourages applications.

If TO and common app, would have 2x the apps.

Now there is no ED. Two rounds of ED and 70% of class filled ED cuts admit rate in half.

So if Georgetown were like Chicago, it would have 2x the apps (cutting admit rate in half) and it would be cut in half again with ED rounds.

In other words, its normalized admit rate is close to 1/4 of 12%.

You’re welcome!

[Anonymous]

Is there going to be a sneak peek of top 10 or 20 schools prior to release on Tuesday? I seem to remember there was a preview a day or two beforehand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there going to be a sneak peek of top 10 or 20 schools prior to release on Tuesday? I seem to remember there was a preview a day or two beforehand.

In the past, the US News site would begin to update individual schools on its website on a Sunday evening, though that takes time, they don't do it all at once. As far as I'm aware, that would be the usual source of the leaking. Then US News will probably put out a news article with the "new" top 10 or something.