Woman sentenced to 30 months in prison in Morocco just for wearing a tee-shirt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how many of you are saying "she is dumb" and "she should have known better."

Is that what you would have said about women who fought for your right to vote in this country? How about the ones who broke the law to help the enslaved?

The ignorance in this thread is astounding.

Yes, she broke the law and the sentence is horrifying. What's more horrifying is the complete lack of human rights in Morocco, but especially women's rights. And you are just shrugging your shoulders.

Many of the people you described suffered the consequences, including death. If she wants to change the country, she should be prepared to stand by her convictions and be jailed for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Muslim, but that was distasteful of her to wear that shirt. This was not "just her wearing a tshirt," this is her traveling to another country trying to offend people.

Who cares if it was distasteful? She should not be in prison for daring to say them.

Who are you to determine the laws and punishment of another country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by how many people are happy to vacation in a country that has this approach to women’s rights. Not for me.

Also, this thread is a dumpster fire. All these people would say that MLK should have sat in jail in Memphis, that he deserved it, and was an idiot. I don’t know enough Moroccan law to know if she broke a law, but if she did, then it is a very disturbing law and good for her for drawing attention to it. But lots of people on this thread think people should just shut up and take it, I guess, and only idiots engage in peaceful civil disobedience.

The article clearly states the laws she broke and the fine and punishment for breaking the law. She is drawing attention to the law and by breaking the law she is being punished. I do not think she should shut up and take it but until the law is changed, she has to suffer the consequences of breaking the law. Not a difficult concept to understand

[Anonymous]

why should people be allowed to eat outside during ramadan in Morrocco!!

you guys realize that people can't walk down the street openly drinking alcohol in most of the USA and that grocery stores in many places don't sell liquor etc etc. Laws in different places are put there to serve the local population.

the real problems with Morrocco is the inheritance laws for women/custody laws . Also it is a Muslim country with a king the way that the UK is a Christian country- it's a constitutional monarchy and they have more women in government than the US.

since people in the US are openly talking about taking away women's right to vote- I think we all have enough problems of our own , Muhammad saw guaranteed Muslim women equal political rights as men in his lifetime so if men can vote/run for office- so can women. faced with oppression- muslim women can look to their faith to guarantee their rights and shove that in the face of the men who are oppressing them so you arent going to find a lot of Muslim women embracing a woman who doesn't respect the faith that they use to empower themselves. Co-oincidentally- Arab custody laws are against Islamic law/sharia and muslim women use the Quran and Hadith to fight against them b/c the custody laws are pre-Islamic, they are just fully culturally entrenched and many people are uneducated about the ins and outs of Islamic family law but mothers have default custody until the kids are 7- then the kids get to weigh in, and default custody of girls unless the girls herself insists otherwise which is actually something fathers have to fight for in sharia courts. It's a LOT easier to fight back against oppressive chauvinism when you can quote the Prophet saw , his status is higher than that of western philosophers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Muslim, but that was distasteful of her to wear that shirt. This was not "just her wearing a tshirt," this is her traveling to another country trying to offend people.

Who cares if it was distasteful? She should not be in prison for daring to say them.

Who are you to determine the laws and punishment of another country?

NP.

Would you say the same thing if we were discussing North Korea instead of Morrocco?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by how many people are happy to vacation in a country that has this approach to women’s rights. Not for me.

Also, this thread is a dumpster fire. All these people would say that MLK should have sat in jail in Memphis, that he deserved it, and was an idiot. I don’t know enough Moroccan law to know if she broke a law, but if she did, then it is a very disturbing law and good for her for drawing attention to it. But lots of people on this thread think people should just shut up and take it, I guess, and only idiots engage in peaceful civil disobedience.

The article clearly states the laws she broke and the fine and punishment for breaking the law. She is drawing attention to the law and by breaking the law she is being punished. I do not think she should shut up and take it but until the law is changed, she has to suffer the consequences of breaking the law. Not a difficult concept to understand

Do you feel the same about undocumented people in the U.S.? They have “to suffer the consequences of breaking the law”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Muslim, but that was distasteful of her to wear that shirt. This was not "just her wearing a tshirt," this is her traveling to another country trying to offend people.

Who cares if it was distasteful? She should not be in prison for daring to say them.

Who are you to determine the laws and punishment of another country?

NP.

Would you say the same thing if we were discussing North Korea instead of Morrocco?

That's it. We invade North Korea next week. Will your daughters sign up for military service?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Religion is a poison.

+1

This is what happens when the nutters take over.

Same thing could happen here - just give the Christofacists a little more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is a poison.

+1

This is what happens when the nutters take over.

Same thing could happen here - just give the Christofacists a little more time.

Could happen? It IS happening.

People are already being fired from their jobs for stating the obvious- that CK promoted the culture of violence and gun worship that ultimately caused his own death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was ready to say, "Wow, I guess I won't be going to Morocco even though that's on my bucket list", but now that I see her tshirt, I think I'm good to go.

That lady was dumb to do that. Yes, the punishment is harsh. Do you remember the case where that young man was caned for spitting gum on the street in Singapore?

When in Rome, people...

+1. That was the first thing I thought of. America, your laws do not travel with you. So don't be stupid in other countries; you can only do that in America.

Who traveled where?

A whole bunch of illiterate morons commented on this thread I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Muslim, but that was distasteful of her to wear that shirt. This was not "just her wearing a tshirt," this is her traveling to another country trying to offend people.

Who cares if it was distasteful? She should not be in prison for daring to say them.

Who are you to determine the laws and punishment of another country?

I didn’t. She did. It’s her country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Morocco is a developed and moderate, generally-tolerant country.

Surprised at the harshness in this case. It does not seem fair.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15103943/Woman-jailed-30-months-wearing-Allah-lesbian-T-shirt.html

You think Freedom of Speech is everywhere?! lol.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why should people be allowed to eat outside during ramadan in Morrocco!!

you guys realize that people can't walk down the street openly drinking alcohol in most of the USA and that grocery stores in many places don't sell liquor etc etc. Laws in different places are put there to serve the local population.

the real problems with Morrocco is the inheritance laws for women/custody laws . Also it is a Muslim country with a king the way that the UK is a Christian country- it's a constitutional monarchy and they have more women in government than the US.

since people in the US are openly talking about taking away women's right to vote- I think we all have enough problems of our own , Muhammad saw guaranteed Muslim women equal political rights as men in his lifetime so if men can vote/run for office- so can women. faced with oppression- muslim women can look to their faith to guarantee their rights and shove that in the face of the men who are oppressing them so you arent going to find a lot of Muslim women embracing a woman who doesn't respect the faith that they use to empower themselves. Co-oincidentally- Arab custody laws are against Islamic law/sharia and muslim women use the Quran and Hadith to fight against them b/c the custody laws are pre-Islamic, they are just fully culturally entrenched and many people are uneducated about the ins and outs of Islamic family law but mothers have default custody until the kids are 7- then the kids get to weigh in, and default custody of girls unless the girls herself insists otherwise which is actually something fathers have to fight for in sharia courts. It's a LOT easier to fight back against oppressive chauvinism when you can quote the Prophet saw , his status is higher than that of western philosophers.

The US is NOT a Christian country. And she has every right to fight the oppressive system of Morocco. As a non-Muslim woman she is a second class citizen. You have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s forced religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why should people be allowed to eat outside during ramadan in Morrocco!!

you guys realize that people can't walk down the street openly drinking alcohol in most of the USA and that grocery stores in many places don't sell liquor etc etc. Laws in different places are put there to serve the local population.

the real problems with Morrocco is the inheritance laws for women/custody laws . Also it is a Muslim country with a king the way that the UK is a Christian country- it's a constitutional monarchy and they have more women in government than the US.

since people in the US are openly talking about taking away women's right to vote- I think we all have enough problems of our own , Muhammad saw guaranteed Muslim women equal political rights as men in his lifetime so if men can vote/run for office- so can women. faced with oppression- muslim women can look to their faith to guarantee their rights and shove that in the face of the men who are oppressing them so you arent going to find a lot of Muslim women embracing a woman who doesn't respect the faith that they use to empower themselves. Co-oincidentally- Arab custody laws are against Islamic law/sharia and muslim women use the Quran and Hadith to fight against them b/c the custody laws are pre-Islamic, they are just fully culturally entrenched and many people are uneducated about the ins and outs of Islamic family law but mothers have default custody until the kids are 7- then the kids get to weigh in, and default custody of girls unless the girls herself insists otherwise which is actually something fathers have to fight for in sharia courts. It's a LOT easier to fight back against oppressive chauvinism when you can quote the Prophet saw , his status is higher than that of western philosophers.

“
muslim women can look to their faith to guarantee their rights and shove that in the face of the men who are oppressing them
“

Of course, why don’t they just do that?

That’s all the uneducated girls of Afghanistan, women imprisoned in Iran for showing their hair, or victims of FGM in Sudan need to do. Simple!

[Anonymous]

No one in the US with any power is talking about taking away the right to vote for women. Where do you get this stuff? It simply isn’t real.