DC CAPE SCORES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are CMI, MVP and SSMA doing? Those were former highly regarded charter schools.

Not good. They had decent test scores not because they had good teachers or curricula but because they attracted families that could supplement. As more dcps schools became accepted by those families, the charters lost their edge. In the case of MVP, part of this is that admission to DCI is no longer guaranteed (and some families will be just as happy with their in bounds middle school anyway).

[Anonymous]

Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

I point out BASIS issues because I want people to know it's not as good a school as the scores and stats make it look. I think that's important, worthwhile, and fair.

[Anonymous]

its not hate really. but a lot of middle schools offer 7th grade algebra. next to nobody (<5%) in 5th grade ELA got a 5 which is weird. you are going to say its a math school and thats due to weak elementary schools but idk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its not hate really. but a lot of middle schools offer 7th grade algebra. next to nobody (<5%) in 5th grade ELA got a 5 which is weird. you are going to say its a math school and thats due to weak elementary schools but idk.

This. It's odd! What's going on there? Lots of schools had better scores for their 5th grade class.

For example SWS, Bancroft, Brent, LT, Maury, Marie Reed, Moten, Payne, Bruce-Monroe... Many!

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

BASIS parent here. Compared to our DCPS elementary, BASIS doesn't seem to really care much about CAPE. They never really talk about it and They knock the tests out in a few days. each test has 30 questions -- at our DCPS, they would give the kids 10 questions per day, Tl/We/Th, so the ELA Math and Science take three weeks. At BASIS, they do one test per day in full, all 30 questions, so they are done in 3 days.

BASIS kids take a lot of other tests, and the within BASIS standardized tests are the ones that are important and that students and teachers are judged by.

We love the school. It would be a terrible fit for many kids, but if it works, it's an incredible opportunity to learn a ton.

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

BASIS parent here. Compared to our DCPS elementary, BASIS doesn't seem to really care much about CAPE. They never really talk about it and They knock the tests out in a few days. each test has 30 questions -- at our DCPS, they would give the kids 10 questions per day, Tl/We/Th, so the ELA Math and Science take three weeks. At BASIS, they do one test per day in full, all 30 questions, so they are done in 3 days.

BASIS kids take a lot of other tests, and the within BASIS standardized tests are the ones that are important and that students and teachers are judged by.

We love the school. It would be a terrible fit for many kids, but if it works, it's an incredible opportunity to learn a ton.

Okay, but still most schools give the kids the test for the class the kid takes. And BASIS and its boosters dearly love to have good stats and talk about how very excellent BASIS is. So wouldn't an impressive Algebra I score be valuable for BASIS?

Or are they not giving the Algebra I CAPE test because they think giving the kids an easier test will look better?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

BASIS parent here. Compared to our DCPS elementary, BASIS doesn't seem to really care much about CAPE. They never really talk about it and They knock the tests out in a few days. each test has 30 questions -- at our DCPS, they would give the kids 10 questions per day, Tl/We/Th, so the ELA Math and Science take three weeks. At BASIS, they do one test per day in full, all 30 questions, so they are done in 3 days.

BASIS kids take a lot of other tests, and the within BASIS standardized tests are the ones that are important and that students and teachers are judged by.

We love the school. It would be a terrible fit for many kids, but if it works, it's an incredible opportunity to learn a ton.

Okay, but still most schools give the kids the test for the class the kid takes. And BASIS and its boosters dearly love to have good stats and talk about how very excellent BASIS is. So wouldn't an impressive Algebra I score be valuable for BASIS?

Or are they not giving the Algebra I CAPE test because they think giving the kids an easier test will look better?

I doubt it. I think they just do the simplest thing to knock out this requirement (give the grade level test to kids at that grade level).

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

BASIS parent here. Compared to our DCPS elementary, BASIS doesn't seem to really care much about CAPE. They never really talk about it and They knock the tests out in a few days. each test has 30 questions -- at our DCPS, they would give the kids 10 questions per day, Tl/We/Th, so the ELA Math and Science take three weeks. At BASIS, they do one test per day in full, all 30 questions, so they are done in 3 days.

BASIS kids take a lot of other tests, and the within BASIS standardized tests are the ones that are important and that students and teachers are judged by.

We love the school. It would be a terrible fit for many kids, but if it works, it's an incredible opportunity to learn a ton.

Okay, but still most schools give the kids the test for the class the kid takes. And BASIS and its boosters dearly love to have good stats and talk about how very excellent BASIS is. So wouldn't an impressive Algebra I score be valuable for BASIS?

Or are they not giving the Algebra I CAPE test because they think giving the kids an easier test will look better?

I doubt it. I think they just do the simplest thing to knock out this requirement (give the grade level test to kids at that grade level).

It just seems like when CAPE scores are good, that proves BASIS is the awesomest. When they're bad, it doesn't prove anything. BASIS always wins.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting to look at BASIS' high school math scores. For Geometry the proficiency rate is 51.8%. For Algebra II, n less than 10, and for Algebra 1, 86%. Why are the geometry scores so low?

[Anonymous]

this might be the first year they put middle school algebra and geometry math scores in a separate spreadsheet.

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much BASIS hate? BASIS is working very well for much of its student population. Yes, that population is not reflective of many DC public or public charter schools. But so what? I wish the effort put into breaking down BASIS flaws was aimed at what other public schools need to do to serve the vast majority of their student populations just as well.

Ok. But why doesn't BASIS have kids take the CAPE for the class they're actually taking? Seems like since BASIS is working very well and is all around awesome, they would be able to show good results for 6th grade Algebra I, right? Why not do it?

BASIS parent here. Compared to our DCPS elementary, BASIS doesn't seem to really care much about CAPE. They never really talk about it and They knock the tests out in a few days. each test has 30 questions -- at our DCPS, they would give the kids 10 questions per day, Tl/We/Th, so the ELA Math and Science take three weeks. At BASIS, they do one test per day in full, all 30 questions, so they are done in 3 days.

BASIS kids take a lot of other tests, and the within BASIS standardized tests are the ones that are important and that students and teachers are judged by.

We love the school. It would be a terrible fit for many kids, but if it works, it's an incredible opportunity to learn a ton.

Okay, but still most schools give the kids the test for the class the kid takes. And BASIS and its boosters dearly love to have good stats and talk about how very excellent BASIS is. So wouldn't an impressive Algebra I score be valuable for BASIS?

Or are they not giving the Algebra I CAPE test because they think giving the kids an easier test will look better?

No. Why would it be? As a parent, I don't care what the Algebra 1 CAPE score is. I care about which colleges admit BASIS DC students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Top 10 6th Grade Performance (English):

Deal Middle School 82.2
Washington Latin PCS - Anna Julia Cooper Middle School 77.1
Hardy Middle School 76.9
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School 75.9
BASIS DC PCS 75.6
Washington Latin PCS - Middle School 74.2
District of Columbia International School 64.4
The Sojourner Truth School PCS 59.4
Capitol Hill Montessori School @ Logan 56.5
Inspired Teaching Demonstration PCS 55.1

Top 10 6th Grade Performance (Math):

Deal Middle School 77.4
Washington Latin PCS - Anna Julia Cooper Middle School 63
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School 61.3
BASIS DC PCS 60.2
Hardy Middle School 60.1
Washington Latin PCS - Middle School 57.7
Inspired Teaching Demonstration PCS 43.8
DC Prep PCS - Edgewood Middle School 41.4
Center City PCS - Brightwood 40.9
Center City PCS - Congress Heights 40.9

Deal >(big gap)> Hardy/Latin/Basis/O-A >(decent gap)> Rest

For feeders. Not as much difference between Deal and Hardy feeders (only since Stoddert outperforms almost all Deal feeders) .

Didn't expect for Hardy to have higher ELA score as Basis, and exactly same Math score as Basis, especially when Basis starts in 5th grade and has more time to get kids up to their supposedly high level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this might be the first year they put middle school algebra and geometry math scores in a separate spreadsheet.

It is, and it's much easier to interpret this way.