Wasn’t me. There’s other posters on this thread you also hate. I’m not a fan of his. |
You are thinking too much of our interaction. Hate is not the word. I don’t regard people who disregard reality. |
Agreed. MAGA is terrible. But we aren’t talking about converting MAGA. We are talking about keeping GenZ men on our side. And if we want to do that, we have to learn how to talk to them. How to reach them. How to keep them. That’s where we are somehow failing and we are trying to tell you how they feel. But you don’t want to listen. |
Aww poor babies |
+1, my kids learned to pretend to be progressives in high school, to fool their idiot teachers, who they quickly learned would explode into half hour rants about Trump if anyone suggested anything positive about him in his first term. Two classmates in our younger son’s English Lit class both got D’s for being Trump supporters. That was a powerful life lesson for him and his older brother and has served both of them well in college. |
For one thing, Trump is not wagging a finger in their faces lecturing them on toxic masculinity, that because they are males they are part of the rape culture. After being scolded by harridans and busy-bodies, they are told they must use ungrammatical pronouns to refer to trans-women who are, despite facts of biology, are indeed women. GenZ White men are told they are the descendants of slave masters who killed the peaceful, harmless, gentle and kind Native Americans. White men are hateful, homophobic, and must be swept aside to allow women and POC to run the country. GenZ is not listening to your silly Girl Power, your anti-capitalist, anti-American tirades. Even GenZ POC are appalled and are disgusted. |
And you are why Gen Z young men are MAGAs. Thank you. |
Sigh. You want to just keep losing, don’t you? Let’s get a few things straight. No Gen Zers actually believe the Democrats care about education any more after Covid, so you can drop that. Trying to convince Gen Z that Democrats care about education will only get hollow laughs. Union jobs are hoarded by Gen X and Boomers, so are unavailable and mostly useless to Gen Z. Trump wasn’t being aspirational with the McDonalds gig. He was meeting Gen Z where they are now. And that’s what they see in their future. Democrats mock and disparage those jobs (Harris with her inability to prove any time spent at McDonald’s was so awful, it was so clearly an insult by her). Trump in contrast celebrated the labor. He didn’t change who he was — he was out there with his usual suit and tie — but he telegraphed respect, satisfaction, and pride. Of course that shouldn’t be the ideal future. But it is what Gen Z has now, and Trump acknowledged that. |
So, GenZ is consigned to a miserable scrap heap of poverty, and Democrats will win them back by saying "Yep, that's all you get". I have a problem with this game plan. |
Kids have learned to lie to their teachers for sure. It’s a mark of trust when a Gen Z man tells you what he really thinks, even cautiously. They’re used to hiding everything, because that’s what schools and the culture more generally rewards now. |
I know no one gen z male who likes trump. Don and his friends that age. Daughter met someone in college who
Liked trump but he was a social outcast when he announced this. He’s changed his mind after the recent disastrous months. |
Again, when have Democrats campaigned on calling out toxic masculinity, pronouns, or any of the other silly "woke" stuff you mentioned? At most a few local school boards in Montgomery County or Berkeley California have mounted campaigns like that. I might note that local school boards in the South have also advocated banning books and mandating Christian theology, so there's nutters on both sides when you start drilling to the local level. But at the national level "wokism" is coming from social media and academia, not from the national Democratic party. |
Well, the Democrats haven’t offered anything that would actually help Gen Z men. Trump acknowledges their pain, poverty, and struggle. Democrats essentially tell them to sit down and shut up. What would really help Gen Z men is an investment in the military and associated education/training/fitness but Democrats will never support that. |
Tariffs are anti-capitalist. A sitting potus telling people to boycott an American company is anti-capitalist. Only weak men are scared of Girl Power ( I think it's a silly term, but I get what they are trying to convey). -Independent, former R |
Um Dems fully support funding training programs. As a matter of fact, Obama tried that with IT training programs in coal country, but young men still wanted to train on being a coal miner. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/awaiting-trumps-coal-comeback-miners-reject-retraining-idUSKBN1D14FT/ |