Where does prestige stop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn is great at what it does, which is pre-professional focus. In that, it is more similar to many of the top public schools.

Their academic departments, especially STEM, are top notch. It is much more than pre-professional. It is overall on par with Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Have you been to a college campus recently? Only the protesters care about anything other than grad school, Wall Street, or FAANG. Almost every kid is pre-professional. School and life is too expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you been to a college campus recently? Only the protesters care about anything other than grad school, Wall Street, or FAANG. Almost every kid is pre-professional. School and life is too expensive.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you been to a college campus recently? Only the protesters care about anything other than grad school, Wall Street, or FAANG. Almost every kid is pre-professional. School and life is too expensive.

Sorry but I'm going to call BS. Many of these kids don't have to think about money at all and others are getting heavily subsidized aid packages. The kids see the clear reality that they're elites and can make a bunch of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you been to a college campus recently? Only the protesters care about anything other than grad school, Wall Street, or FAANG. Almost every kid is pre-professional. School and life is too expensive.

Sorry but I'm going to call BS. Many of these kids don't have to think about money at all and others are getting heavily subsidized aid packages. The kids see the clear reality that they're elites and can make a bunch of money.

Everyone thinks about money, wealthy kids too. They have to fund their future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you been to a college campus recently? Only the protesters care about anything other than grad school, Wall Street, or FAANG. Almost every kid is pre-professional. School and life is too expensive.

Sorry but I'm going to call BS. Many of these kids don't have to think about money at all and others are getting heavily subsidized aid packages. The kids see the clear reality that they're elites and can make a bunch of money.

You are wrong. Those on aid have to get jobs once they graduate. Rich kids still need to get internships during the summer or work at daddy's firm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the life of me I will never understand the psychology of someone who wants a definitive list of what is prestigious or impressive and what is not. I mean, it is such a nuanced thing that depends on metrics you're evaluating on, who the person judging is, etc...

Why would you even ask this question?

Are you trying to get someone to confirm for you that ivies and MIT are the only super special schools?

This question is asked (as well as most of the posts on DCUM) because anonymity frees people up to be vile without repercussion. And I'm no exception as I wouldn't say the above to anyone's face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most prestigious:
Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Penn, Princeton

Less prestigious:
Yale, Columbia, Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern

Afterwards:
No prestige

Penn does not belong in that top group. Not even Wharton. Yale has far more prestige.

30 years ago you would have been correct. Now Penn is in the top group.

Interestingly: I have a senior at Penn and a sophomore at Penn State. The sophomore had equal grades and was also a merit finalist and athlete and decided to attend Penn State (Schreyer) over the top schools including Penn. He applied to just a few other and was waitlisted/rejected but is SO happy at Penn State. His thinking was that he was smart enough to get a good education anywhere and wanted a more robust social life. My senior at Penn laments the social scene at Penn and thinks my younger son made a smart choice. Also of note: None of his 5 other roommates were able to find internships this year (he was lucky to have one), but my sophomore son's friends mostly have internships this year. I used to put a lot of weight on top schools and I just don't anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most prestigious:
Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Penn, Princeton

Less prestigious:
Yale, Columbia, Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern

Afterwards:
No prestige

Penn does not belong in that top group. Not even Wharton. Yale has far more prestige.

30 years ago you would have been correct. Now Penn is in the top group.

Interestingly: I have a senior at Penn and a sophomore at Penn State. The sophomore had equal grades and was also a merit finalist and athlete and decided to attend Penn State (Schreyer) over the top schools including Penn. He applied to just a few other and was waitlisted/rejected but is SO happy at Penn State. His thinking was that he was smart enough to get a good education anywhere and wanted a more robust social life. My senior at Penn laments the social scene at Penn and thinks my younger son made a smart choice. Also of note: None of his 5 other roommates were able to find internships this year (he was lucky to have one), but my sophomore son's friends mostly have internships this year. I used to put a lot of weight on top schools and I just don't anymore.

Some kids are also miserable at Harvard. I suspect this says more about your individual kids and their friend groups than anything else. Not in a negative way, but about individual fit and where they fit in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most prestigious:
Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Penn, Princeton

Less prestigious:
Yale, Columbia, Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern

Afterwards:
No prestige

Penn does not belong in that top group. Not even Wharton. Yale has far more prestige.

30 years ago you would have been correct. Now Penn is in the top group.

Interestingly: I have a senior at Penn and a sophomore at Penn State. The sophomore had equal grades and was also a merit finalist and athlete and decided to attend Penn State (Schreyer) over the top schools including Penn. He applied to just a few other and was waitlisted/rejected but is SO happy at Penn State. His thinking was that he was smart enough to get a good education anywhere and wanted a more robust social life. My senior at Penn laments the social scene at Penn and thinks my younger son made a smart choice. Also of note: None of his 5 other roommates were able to find internships this year (he was lucky to have one), but my sophomore son's friends mostly have internships this year. I used to put a lot of weight on top schools and I just don't anymore.

Some kids are also miserable at Harvard. I suspect this says more about your individual kids and their friend groups than anything else. Not in a negative way, but about individual fit and where they fit in.

True. I think he honestly didn't like the idea of being at a "prestigious school." He is really down to earth and something about it rubbed him the wrong way. We just went with it! He knew what he wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn is great at what it does, which is pre-professional focus. In that, it is more similar to many of the top public schools.

Their academic departments, especially STEM, are top notch. It is much more than pre-professional. It is overall on par with Princeton.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Prestige cutoff is with 15

Ivies, Stanford, mit, cal tech, chicago, northwestern, duke, jhu

This is it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prestige cutoff is with 15

Ivies, Stanford, mit, cal tech, chicago, northwestern, duke, jhu

This is it

Uh, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At Tulane? At American? GWU?

Flagship state school.