Did your DMV private do better than Westminster Atlanta?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to NESCAC but it took urging on my part to get my Southern kid to even look at them. Down here, they’re surrounded by many many successful people who never considered going anywhere but their state flagship or another Southern state flagship, and who have a lot of loyalty to their alma mater. The pull of the Northeastern privates just isn’t as strong.


Exactly. People in ATL respect Ivies, Duke, etc. a lot. But you can also go very far by going to UGA and being in the right fraternity and meeting the right people. This is a small group of people and I wouldn't count on it but those who make fun of southern flagship schools don't realize the power of those degrees and relationships.

And I'm sure many northerners will say "but who wants to be one of them?" I don't. But I wouldn't thumb my nose at them either.


I can't imagine many kids who can get into the right fraternity at UGA can also get into Harvard or an Ivy. At least at our strong public in PA, most of the smart/ivy kids aren't fraternity types. Let alone the kind that can get into the right fraternity at a huge state school.


You are right that there isn't perfect overlap and it likely is largely the exception, but it exists. Smart old money kids. And smart connected kids. Grandpa went to UGA and became really successful while staying in state. So dad went to UGA and was in the right frat and kept the money going. And now the kid is doing the same thing. Going elsewhere doesn't even cross their mind.

I went to Ivy grad school with someone like this. Stayed in state for undergrad and was a real BMOC and super bright - likely could have gone to a top tier private but it wasn't even considered. Worked at the right places in state for a few years but then decided to break from tradition and go north for grad school, but they could have stayed put and been very successful with just the undergrad from their state school.
Anonymous
It's fun to watch Yankees mansplain the South. Y'all think y'all know everything,,,,

-Deep South transplant to the mid-Atlantic

Anonymous
Was it Sweet Home Alabama? Just because we talk slow doesn’t mean we’re stupid…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s ranked #1 on Niche, so not sure why Niche rankings don’t have credibility.

https://www.niche.com/k12/rankings/methodology/

"Niche takes steps to ensure data integrity, but rankings may be inaccurate if Niche is supplied with inaccurate data from schools, data sources such as the US Department of Education or spam and automated 'bot' reviews."
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3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

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Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago
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3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Was it Sweet Home Alabama? Just because we talk slow doesn’t mean we’re stupid…


I'm so sick of confused Northern people who are so wrapped up in their superiority complexes that they have to contrive reasons (they have books! Hooks I tell that would explain an impressive admit list from a top tier private school in Atlanta.
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Anonymous wrote:Was it Sweet Home Alabama? Just because we talk slow doesn’t mean we’re stupid…


I'm so sick of confused Northern people who are so wrapped up in their superiority complexes that they have to contrive reasons (they have books! Hooks I tell that would explain an impressive admit list from a top tier private school in Atlanta.


It’s not actually impressive, sorry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Westminster is like National Cathedral. It’s an incredible school and most of the parents can afford full pay at any university which means they get the ED bump too.


And a geographic diversity boost.
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3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.


Most of Sidwell’s US students come from Maryland. Those students have a solid in-state option.

UPPER SCHOOL
STUDENTS
Enrollment: 508
Upper School Residency:
Maryland: 245
DC: 191
Virginia: 72
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3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.


Most of Sidwell’s US students come from Maryland. Those students have a solid in-state option.

UPPER SCHOOL
STUDENTS
Enrollment: 508
Upper School Residency:
Maryland: 245
DC: 191
Virginia: 72


I meant to add that when MD and VA residents are combined, ~62% of Sidwell US students have a solid in in-state option (in MD and VA). However, UVA, W&M, UMD are not super popular destinations for Sidwell students either. They typically send about 1-2 students to those schools each year.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjBU3VGK/
3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.


Most of Sidwell’s US students come from Maryland. Those students have a solid in-state option.

UPPER SCHOOL
STUDENTS
Enrollment: 508
Upper School Residency:
Maryland: 245
DC: 191
Virginia: 72


I meant to add that when MD and VA residents are combined, ~62% of Sidwell US students have a solid in in-state option (in MD and VA). However, UVA, W&M, UMD are not super popular destinations for Sidwell students either. They typically send about 1-2 students to those schools each year.


I know UMD is much better than it was, but you likely aren't spending all of that money to go to Sidwell to have your kid end up at UMD. Much more likely for UVA and possibly W&M. This isn't meant as a shot at UMD - great school. But not what they are hoping for.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjBU3VGK/
3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.


Most of Sidwell’s US students come from Maryland. Those students have a solid in-state option.

UPPER SCHOOL
STUDENTS
Enrollment: 508
Upper School Residency:
Maryland: 245
DC: 191
Virginia: 72


I meant to add that when MD and VA residents are combined, ~62% of Sidwell US students have a solid in in-state option (in MD and VA). However, UVA, W&M, UMD are not super popular destinations for Sidwell students either. They typically send about 1-2 students to those schools each year.


I know UMD is much better than it was, but you likely aren't spending all of that money to go to Sidwell to have your kid end up at UMD. Much more likely for UVA and possibly W&M. This isn't meant as a shot at UMD - great school. But not what they are hoping for.


I agree.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjBU3VGK/
3-Harvard
1-MIT
2-USC
1-UChicago
3-BU
1-Columbia
1-Duke
2-Stanford
1-Berkeley
14-UGA
1-Yale
1-Penn
9-UVa
11-Gatech
1-Brown
2-Georgetown
2-Notre Dame
7-Wake Forest
1-UCLA
1-Hopkins
3-Vanderbilt
3-UMich
3-UNC
2-Dartmouth
2-Emory
2-Northwestern
6-BC
2-WashU
2-Tufts

This forum loves to pretend southern high-schools are all horrible.


Yes, Sidwell did better. I’ll focus on Ivy+ universities here because: (1) they tend to be the most selective, and (2) a lot of schools on Westminster’s list are not popular with Sidwell students (e.g., UGA, GT, WF, etc).

Keep in mind that Westminster’s graduating class is nearly twice as large as Sidwell’s.

3-Harvard
1-Columbia
2-Yale
5-Penn
3-Brown
2-Dartmouth
3-Cornell
3-Princeton
2-MIT
2-Stanford
5-UChicago


The only reason DC private schools are perhaps an imperfect comparison is due to our lack of any reasonable in-state options.

This of course doesn't take anything away from the Sidwell kids attending the schools above, but rather what the list would look like if we had the equivalent of a UGA and a GA Tech...or any decent in-state option.

That said, I don't know the %age of Sidwell kids that are not DC residents and therefore have either UVA or UMD as options. My sense is there are far fewer VA kids compared to MD kids.


Most of Sidwell’s US students come from Maryland. Those students have a solid in-state option.

UPPER SCHOOL
STUDENTS
Enrollment: 508
Upper School Residency:
Maryland: 245
DC: 191
Virginia: 72


I meant to add that when MD and VA residents are combined, ~62% of Sidwell US students have a solid in in-state option (in MD and VA). However, UVA, W&M, UMD are not super popular destinations for Sidwell students either. They typically send about 1-2 students to those schools each year.


I wonder what the numbers look like for UVA and W&M from a school like Flint Hill which I imagine probably pulls like 90% from VA.

Potomac probably isn’t a great representation as they have large DC and MD contingents as well.
Anonymous
Looks like Duke exercised good judgment on Sidwell.
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