APS Math instruction

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need a solid math curriculum. I would like "Priimary Math" in the US Edition. It is the actual math curriculum used by students in Singapore - with minimal tweaks (i.e., US weights and measures; US currency denominations)

Isn’t going to happen, but you can purchase yourself (many homeschoolers do).

DP. I was homeschooled and used Singapore math and purchased it for home for my kid. It actually has a decent amount of group work so I don’t know that it’s what I would recommend.

And what version do you have? Dimensions definitely seems more suited to a classroom, but even that can be adapted if you put in a little effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need a solid math curriculum. I would like "Priimary Math" in the US Edition. It is the actual math curriculum used by students in Singapore - with minimal tweaks (i.e., US weights and measures; US currency denominations)

Isn’t going to happen, but you can purchase yourself (many homeschoolers do).

DP. I was homeschooled and used Singapore math and purchased it for home for my kid. It actually has a decent amount of group work so I don’t know that it’s what I would recommend.

Which specific "Singapore Math" was that?

There are at least 5 different curricula sold in the US which claim to be "Singapore Math". And, just to be clear, there really are non-trivial differences among them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need a solid math curriculum. I would like "Priimary Math" in the US Edition. It is the actual math curriculum used by students in Singapore - with minimal tweaks (i.e., US weights and measures; US currency denominations)

Isn’t going to happen, but you can purchase yourself (many homeschoolers do).

DP. I was homeschooled and used Singapore math and purchased it for home for my kid. It actually has a decent amount of group work so I don’t know that it’s what I would recommend.

And what version do you have? Dimensions definitely seems more suited to a classroom, but even that can be adapted if you put in a little effort.

Dimensions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need a solid math curriculum. I would like "Priimary Math" in the US Edition. It is the actual math curriculum used by students in Singapore - with minimal tweaks (i.e., US weights and measures; US currency denominations)

Isn’t going to happen, but you can purchase yourself (many homeschoolers do).

DP. I was homeschooled and used Singapore math and purchased it for home for my kid. It actually has a decent amount of group work so I don’t know that it’s what I would recommend.

Oh, come on. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure how to adapt it for a single child. Homeschoolers do it every day. 🙄

True. That said I do work and when looking for something to supplement at home not sure that I would prefer something I have to adapt over something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need a solid math curriculum. I would like "Priimary Math" in the US Edition. It is the actual math curriculum used by students in Singapore - with minimal tweaks (i.e., US weights and measures; US currency denominations)

Isn’t going to happen, but you can purchase yourself (many homeschoolers do).

DP. I was homeschooled and used Singapore math and purchased it for home for my kid. It actually has a decent amount of group work so I don’t know that it’s what I would recommend.

And what version do you have? Dimensions definitely seems more suited to a classroom, but even that can be adapted if you put in a little effort.

Dimensions.

Primary is quite a bit different than Dimensions. Better, imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have taught Primary Mathematics (Singapore national math curriculum) for 3 years. It is a great, conceptual, interesting program. It also seemed to make my students really enjoy the math that they were doing. They got interested and wanted to know more and extend their learning.

That being said, there is a huge gaping hole in implementation in the US. I was never able to overcome this issue. In Singapore, nearly all students attend kumon-type drill/cram schools in their free time. They know their facts backwards and forwards and upside down.

Singapore Primary Mathematics assumes kids are doing this and the whole operation starts to fall apart around 3-4th grade if your students don’t know their facts lightning quick. You almost need to run like a drill workbook concurrently along with it…but that takes the fun and high interest out of it.

But Primary Math comes with a workbook to accompany the textbook, no? Seems to just be an issue of sufficient time/homework.

DP. The parent who purchased. The workbook to me won’t accomplish that. It reinforces what you learned but it doesn’t emphasize fact acquisition so you would probably need to do something additional. Like Kumon.

You could also do flash cards and worksheets at home yourself if you are just trying to get your kids to memorize the basics. It’s really not that hard…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have taught Primary Mathematics (Singapore national math curriculum) for 3 years. It is a great, conceptual, interesting program. It also seemed to make my students really enjoy the math that they were doing. They got interested and wanted to know more and extend their learning.

That being said, there is a huge gaping hole in implementation in the US. I was never able to overcome this issue. In Singapore, nearly all students attend kumon-type drill/cram schools in their free time. They know their facts backwards and forwards and upside down.

Singapore Primary Mathematics assumes kids are doing this and the whole operation starts to fall apart around 3-4th grade if your students don’t know their facts lightning quick. You almost need to run like a drill workbook concurrently along with it…but that takes the fun and high interest out of it.

But Primary Math comes with a workbook to accompany the textbook, no? Seems to just be an issue of sufficient time/homework.

DP. The parent who purchased. The workbook to me won’t accomplish that. It reinforces what you learned but it doesn’t emphasize fact acquisition so you would probably need to do something additional. Like Kumon.

You could also do flash cards and worksheets at home yourself if you are just trying to get your kids to memorize the basics. It’s really not that hard…

Math should be understood, not just memorized. Yes, there’s a time to memorize facts, but that comes AFTER conceptual learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

From math, to an AP job, and now to “Talent Acquisition.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

From math, to an AP job, and now to “Talent Acquisition.”

how's that a promotion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

From math, to an AP job, and now to “Talent Acquisition.”

how's that a promotion?

would you rather sit at syphax or roam the halls of a middle school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

From math, to an AP job, and now to “Talent Acquisition.”

how's that a promotion?

would you rather sit at syphax or roam the halls of a middle school?

And syphax sets salaries. Guess how they pay themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have taught Primary Mathematics (Singapore national math curriculum) for 3 years. It is a great, conceptual, interesting program. It also seemed to make my students really enjoy the math that they were doing. They got interested and wanted to know more and extend their learning.

That being said, there is a huge gaping hole in implementation in the US. I was never able to overcome this issue. In Singapore, nearly all students attend kumon-type drill/cram schools in their free time. They know their facts backwards and forwards and upside down.

Singapore Primary Mathematics assumes kids are doing this and the whole operation starts to fall apart around 3-4th grade if your students don’t know their facts lightning quick. You almost need to run like a drill workbook concurrently along with it…but that takes the fun and high interest out of it.

But Primary Math comes with a workbook to accompany the textbook, no? Seems to just be an issue of sufficient time/homework.

DP. The parent who purchased. The workbook to me won’t accomplish that. It reinforces what you learned but it doesn’t emphasize fact acquisition so you would probably need to do something additional. Like Kumon.

You could also do flash cards and worksheets at home yourself if you are just trying to get your kids to memorize the basics. It’s really not that hard…

Math should be understood, not just memorized. Yes, there’s a time to memorize facts, but that comes AFTER conceptual learning.

Sure but the PP was talking about the lack of drilling in Singapore Math. I don’t think anyone thinks it doesn’t teach the conceptual parts well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is selecting this math curriculum that teachers find lacking? The name of the person at Syphax.

The head of the math dept, like several of her predecessors, was just promoted.

To what?

From math, to an AP job, and now to “Talent Acquisition.”

how's that a promotion?

would you rather sit at syphax or roam the halls of a middle school?

on those grounds moving from math supervisor to AP would be a demotion not a promotion. who are we talking about anyways?