APS Math instruction

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per Duran’s slide: The number of students scoring in the top range decreased quite a bit. Not a great sign.

34.5% to 31.5%? Not sure I'd call that "quite a bit", but OK.

What did other school districts see in the same time frame? Did anything change in the test approach that may have affected scores? It's a new test so it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Duran should absolutely address any issues raised but I wouldn't draw any huge conclusions after comparing just two years of data.

That said, I do fully support APS purchasing a curriculum if there is one available that meets the wonky VA standards. (VA DOE should do this IMO)

Wait. You said scores are increasing.

[Anonymous]

Don’t SOLs start in 4th grade? Couldn’t APS just choose a quality curriculum, knowing that they’d cover the material needed, even if it isn’t “in order”?

Solid instruction from K-3 would produce better scores, no?

Or must certain topics be covered each quarter no matter what the teachers think is best?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to pin this post and come back to it a few year later? Your claims that APS is doing just fine aren’t going to age well.

I don't think everything is perfect, but it's also not the disaster narrative that some people are pushing. Certainly not the lies people are trying to spread about DHMS.

I think purchasing a good curriculum that meets VA standards would be great - if it exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per Duran’s slide: The number of students scoring in the top range decreased quite a bit. Not a great sign.

34.5% to 31.5%? Not sure I'd call that "quite a bit", but OK.

What did other school districts see in the same time frame? Did anything change in the test approach that may have affected scores? It's a new test so it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Duran should absolutely address any issues raised but I wouldn't draw any huge conclusions after comparing just two years of data.

That said, I do fully support APS purchasing a curriculum if there is one available that meets the wonky VA standards. (VA DOE should do this IMO)

Wait. You said scores are increasing.

I said SOL scores have been increasing, fckface.

I can repeat for you:
- APS SOL scores have been increasing each year since the pandemic.
- MAP testing is down a bit but it's only the second year with this new test so too soon to draw conclusions.
- Republicans are full of sht and make up lies about math departments and score fluffing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to pin this post and come back to it a few year later? Your claims that APS is doing just fine aren’t going to age well.

I don't think everything is perfect, but it's also not the disaster narrative that some people are pushing. Certainly not the lies people are trying to spread about DHMS.

I think purchasing a good curriculum that meets VA standards would be great - if it exists.

Uhhh they just fired a DHMS math teacher. This week. Math instruction is not going great. Not for students or for teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per Duran’s slide: The number of students scoring in the top range decreased quite a bit. Not a great sign.

34.5% to 31.5%? Not sure I'd call that "quite a bit", but OK.

What did other school districts see in the same time frame? Did anything change in the test approach that may have affected scores? It's a new test so it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Duran should absolutely address any issues raised but I wouldn't draw any huge conclusions after comparing just two years of data.

That said, I do fully support APS purchasing a curriculum if there is one available that meets the wonky VA standards. (VA DOE should do this IMO)

Wait. You said scores are increasing.

I said SOL scores have been increasing, fckface.

I can repeat for you:
- APS SOL scores have been increasing each year since the pandemic.
- MAP testing is down a bit but it's only the second year with this new test so too soon to draw conclusions.
- Republicans are full of sht and make up lies about math departments and score fluffing.

PP is right. They lowered the bar for a passing score on SOLs. I don’t think that’s a win at all.

[Anonymous]

MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per Duran’s slide: The number of students scoring in the top range decreased quite a bit. Not a great sign.

34.5% to 31.5%? Not sure I'd call that "quite a bit", but OK.

What did other school districts see in the same time frame? Did anything change in the test approach that may have affected scores? It's a new test so it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Duran should absolutely address any issues raised but I wouldn't draw any huge conclusions after comparing just two years of data.

That said, I do fully support APS purchasing a curriculum if there is one available that meets the wonky VA standards. (VA DOE should do this IMO)

Wait. You said scores are increasing.

I said SOL scores have been increasing, fckface.

I can repeat for you:
- APS SOL scores have been increasing each year since the pandemic.
- MAP testing is down a bit but it's only the second year with this new test so too soon to draw conclusions.
- Republicans are full of sht and make up lies about math departments and score fluffing.

PP is right. They lowered the bar for a passing score on SOLs. I don’t think that’s a win at all.

Link? When was this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I don't think you get it. The point is that you can't draw much of a conclusion based on only 2 years of data for this test within APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to pin this post and come back to it a few year later? Your claims that APS is doing just fine aren’t going to age well.

I don't think everything is perfect, but it's also not the disaster narrative that some people are pushing. Certainly not the lies people are trying to spread about DHMS.

I think purchasing a good curriculum that meets VA standards would be great - if it exists.

Uhhh they just fired a DHMS math teacher. This week. Math instruction is not going great. Not for students or for teachers.

Which teacher?

Are you the PP who was pushing lies about the # of new math teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I don't think you get it. The point is that you can't draw much of a conclusion based on only 2 years of data for this test within APS.

No, I do get it. You mentioned that it’s a new test, and it’s not. It’s not like they need to work out some bugs.

I agree that more years of data will help draw conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I don't think you get it. The point is that you can't draw much of a conclusion based on only 2 years of data for this test within APS.

How did APS compare with other districts across those two years?
How did teachers administer it year 1 vs. year 2?
Did the test algorithm change?
etc.

We shouldn't dismiss it completely but it's not really a full picture of student performance.

[Anonymous]

Look at the VDOE website. They state that proficiency scores were lowered. People aren’t making this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I don't think you get it. The point is that you can't draw much of a conclusion based on only 2 years of data for this test within APS.

How did APS compare with other districts across those two years?
How did teachers administer it year 1 vs. year 2?
Did the test algorithm change?
etc.

We shouldn't dismiss it completely but it's not really a full picture of student performance.

Decreasing scores are okay as long as neighboring districts are decreasing, too? Come on.

And it’s administered on an iPad. That doesn’t change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP testing isn’t new. It’s new to APS. I wouldn’t be so dismissive.

I don't think you get it. The point is that you can't draw much of a conclusion based on only 2 years of data for this test within APS.

No, I do get it. You mentioned that it’s a new test, and it’s not. It’s not like they need to work out some bugs.

I agree that more years of data will help draw conclusions.

It's new to APS. Don't be pedantic.

They may have to work out bugs for administering it - there may be discrepancies from one year to the next.