I hate youth and high school sports

[Anonymous]

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You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

You could take a 1000 kids and have all of them train just like Curry. None of them would ever come close to shooting like him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

99.9%+ of kids don’t have a father who played in the NBA for over a decade and was an excellent shooter throughout his career.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

99.9%+ of kids don’t have a father who played in the NBA for over a decade and was an excellent shooter throughout his career.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

So, why did he receive only one very low tier D1 offer if he was blessed with such natural ability?

Does it make sense to you that he wasn’t even offered a walk on spot at VT (where his dad played) and only received an offer from Davidson if he was blessed with such incredible natural ability?

Please, reconcile that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

You could take a 1000 kids and have all of them train just like Curry. None of them would ever come close to shooting like him.

Curry himself wasn’t even regarded as a great high school basketball player. So, explain how you come to your conclusion…other than he worked his ass off to get where he is…in other words he trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry.

[Anonymous]

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So, why did he receive only one very low tier D1 offer if he was blessed with such natural ability?
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Do you realize how good you have to be to play d1 basketball?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, why did he receive only one very low tier D1 offer if he was blessed with such natural ability?
.

Do you realize how good you have to be to play d1 basketball?

Wait…so now the standard is just playing D1 basketball anywhere…considering 98% of all D1 players will never make the NBA?

I thought the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry was always the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry. Doesn’t that mean he should have been snapped up by Duke or UNC out of high school which would blow Davidson out of the water in a game?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

You could take a 1000 kids and have all of them train just like Curry. None of them would ever come close to shooting like him.

Curry himself wasn’t even regarded as a great high school basketball player. So, explain how you come to your conclusion…other than he worked his ass off to get where he is…in other words he trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry.

Sorry, but if he worked his ass off and “trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry”… then why did he, in your words, “only” get one D1 offer? Are you saying he didn’t start working his ass off until he was playing D1? Because if you are, you are proving our point, and if you’re saying that he always trained that hard but met with (in your opinion) not much success, then you are disproving your point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

You could take a 1000 kids and have all of them train just like Curry. None of them would ever come close to shooting like him.

Curry himself wasn’t even regarded as a great high school basketball player. So, explain how you come to your conclusion…other than he worked his ass off to get where he is…in other words he trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry.

Sorry, but if he worked his ass off and “trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry”… then why did he, in your words, “only” get one D1 offer? Are you saying he didn’t start working his ass off until he was playing D1? Because if you are, you are proving our point, and if you’re saying that he always trained that hard but met with (in your opinion) not much success, then you are disproving your point.

Seems like at 6’2” he has worked his ass off since middle school…which is what all top athletes have done….except pro soccer players who start at 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, why did he receive only one very low tier D1 offer if he was blessed with such natural ability?
.

Do you realize how good you have to be to play d1 basketball?

Wait…so now the standard is just playing D1 basketball anywhere…considering 98% of all D1 players will never make the NBA?

I thought the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry was always the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry. Doesn’t that mean he should have been snapped up by Duke or UNC out of high school which would blow Davidson out of the water in a game?

Clearly high school recruiting is not fool proof otherwise the NBA would draft the entire lineup from Duke and UNC.

Kids grow and develop a lot of athleticism from 18 - 21. And for whatever reason you talk about Davidson like they just take anyone. You have to be a standout high school player to get recruited to any college. And curry was the number 60 PG in the nation and son of a former NBA player. He wasn't just some nobody who decided to grind in college.

But you can keep believing that you can just work your way to being the greatest shooter of all time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You literally gave one of the best examples of somebody who basically willed themselves into the NBA and did not win the genetic lottery.

Steph Curry is 6'2". Only 27 NBA players out of 450 total players are 6'2" or smaller. Go watch a local DMV HS game with PVI, Gonzaga, Sidwell...90% of the starting five for those teams is over 6'2".

A little note on his practice routine:

Stephen Curry, a Golden State Warriors player, practices shooting hundreds of shots every day. In the season, he typically takes around 300 shots after each practice. During the offseason, he increases his practice to over 500 shots per day.

You can't be this delusional.

Steph Curry has a gift everyone else doesn't have. Otherwise, the 6'4 HS basketball player would just shoot a couple hundred extra shots per day and make 100s of millions of dollars.

You're also missing the fact the Steph has elite level conditioning and can outrun almost all NBA players. He also can see the floor and knows how to get open which is what makes him so good.

And BTW, 6'2 is in the 95 percentile for height. So while he's a short NBA player, he's way taller than the average male.

Using Steph Curry as an example of someone who didn’t win the genetic lottery is pretty funny. I imagine Dell and Seth would be surprised by that idea.

The reality is 99.9% of kids no matter how much they may claim to love basketball won’t shoot 300 shots every day after practice nor 500 shots every day in the offseason.

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

You could take a 1000 kids and have all of them train just like Curry. None of them would ever come close to shooting like him.

Curry himself wasn’t even regarded as a great high school basketball player. So, explain how you come to your conclusion…other than he worked his ass off to get where he is…in other words he trained like Steph Curry to become Steph Curry.

A lot of the best players in many sports were not the best in high school and many didn't have many if ANY college offers. We see that a lot with NFL and NBA players that really blossom later.

My sons are late growers/developers. With that comes very fast, late growth spurts with a lot of growth-related injuries and imbalances along the way. My oldest was not on a top club team until senior year of HS and was kind of bullied by the HS coach--and overlooked. Today he is playing D1. He went through a lot. He has serious grit and perseverance and drive--almost everyone else in similar situation stopped playing. He didn't listen to anyone else and trained and trained and kept putting himself out there in front of coaches.

I really hate the American youth and HS system too. I had to continually move my kids around in order for them to find coaches that understood player development because in the US --even in sports like soccer--the bigger beasts keep getting the attention no matter the poor touch. They pretty much freeze kids out of teams by the time they reach HS.

All it takes is one coach to give your kid a chance and for him to prove himself. Finding that one coach is the hard part. Kids that didn't have things handed to them or parents that bulldozed/politicked for them become really dedicated and great leaders in general.

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^ by moving around I don't mean badgering or badmouthing teams or coaches...

I mean assessing where my kids were at that point and time and what they needed. Different coaches and different playing styles at different stages in development.

Staying on the bench as a small player does them no good, they need to be playing.

Also, the truth is some coaches like certain style of players and it will always be that way. If you don't fit their plan you shouldn't waste your time. I'd tell my kids 'it's just business'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, why did he receive only one very low tier D1 offer if he was blessed with such natural ability?
.

Do you realize how good you have to be to play d1 basketball?

Wait…so now the standard is just playing D1 basketball anywhere…considering 98% of all D1 players will never make the NBA?

I thought the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry was always the amazing NBA all star Steph Curry. Doesn’t that mean he should have been snapped up by Duke or UNC out of high school which would blow Davidson out of the water in a game?

Clearly high school recruiting is not fool proof otherwise the NBA would draft the entire lineup from Duke and UNC.

Kids grow and develop a lot of athleticism from 18 - 21. And for whatever reason you talk about Davidson like they just take anyone. You have to be a standout high school player to get recruited to any college. And curry was the number 60 PG in the nation and son of a former NBA player. He wasn't just some nobody who decided to grind in college.

But you can keep believing that you can just work your way to being the greatest shooter of all time.

THIS. I always found it crazy that in soccer that would commit boys Fall/spring of Jr of HS. I'd see the same kids two years later and often they were getting crushed by players that weren't on anyone's radar a the time. Talk about transfer portal---this is why kids jump. Either they were underestimated and need better or they were over-estimated and can't get off the bench to save their lives.

[Anonymous]

Buttt why

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole system is ridiculous, and what is more ridiculous is that people support this broken system. You have to play for years just to make it into a high school JV team, and once you make it, you have to spend 20+ hours per week training. It takes time away from academics and other extracurricular.

And all of this time and money invested into sports is for nothing for most parents. Most kids will never play at the NCAA level. It doesn’t matter much for college admissions. I know a kid who has perfect grades and a 35 ACT who was a captain of the varsity football and lacrosse teams (and was class treasurer, NHS president, volunteered, and did part time work), and he got rejected from every remotely selective college. The Ivy Leagues, Notre Dame, Michigan, Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, UNC, and UVA all rejected him

They are lying to you about the kid's actual grades and/or scores--[i]or something else was a red flag elsewhere in the app[i]. Bad rec or sucky essays--or just very mediocre recs. I'm guessing it's more likely that kid and his parents were lying about his academic record.

My kid got into UVA, 2 Ivies, ND, Gtown, Williams with the same stats you quoted and sports outside of HS, not in. His friend with similar stats also had the same type of acceptances and is also at an Ivy rd.

There is no way a kid with those stats and activities wouldn't have been accepted to at least one in that group--esp Michigan and UVA.

I agree. That’s why I mentioned calc AP in a previous post.

What a lot of parents who push athletics need to know is that for college recruitment: academics matter. If you are in a highly regarded travel sports org, that is the one thing they drill into you from the get go. Go for rigorous classes. Get As. Don’t choose easy over excellence.

The parents who are like- ugh. That seems like torture! Why bother?!?! So much work!!!!

If your kid wants to play in college- your kid will do the work. They will make the sacrifice. They will choose excellence.

And they will get in.