If you went to top schools but your kids are attending a lower tier, are you worried about downward mobility?

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It will be downward mobility for everyone but the oligarchs.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will be downward mobility for everyone but the oligarchs.

Truth-teller here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

yes, can confirm. and that is why MBB consulting and other big names recruit at elites.

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Anonymous wrote:How are you handling the real possibility of your kids experiencing downward mobility?

If you went to top schools and are living in a neighborhood/area/house and have a lifestyle similar to the t20->t6->big law partner path or an analogous path in your sector and your kid is going to Clemson, are they aware of the much narrower chance for them to have the same lifestyle as you

Oh look. Another post intended to stoke anxiety via elitism, just with a new angle. Have never seen this before.

It's a legitimate question. Clemson isn't even Syracuse or Pitt level.

This level of rankings obsession is like Zeno’s paradox of increasingly minute distances.

I love it when people call out others for being "rankings obsessed" and the others in question have said absolutely nothing about rankings.

DP. Both the OP and the “Clemson isn’t even Syracuse or Pitt level” poster either directly mention rankings or imply them.

Wrong about the Syracuse poster. They could've been talking about any number of factors including reputation amongst non academics, peer quality, endowment, or any number of factors not measured by most rankings. I would say (my opinion) that Virginia Tech is not on Tulane's level and that has nothing to do with rankings (which often rank Virginia Tech above Tulane due to social mobility and other factors like that.)

Sure, if you say so.

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I actually laughed when reading PP's post, especially the last sentence.
DP

Why? Tulane has higher test scores, endowment, wealthier student body, better salary outcomes... laughing at you being dumb!

Because you made a point criticizing someone for mocking rankings obsession by acknowledging that you know the ordering of the rankings of the schools and the esoteric changes USNWR made to their methodology. Definitely amusing.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:How are you handling the real possibility of your kids experiencing downward mobility?

If you went to top schools and are living in a neighborhood/area/house and have a lifestyle similar to the t20->t6->big law partner path or an analogous path in your sector and your kid is going to Clemson, are they aware of the much narrower chance for them to have the same lifestyle as you

Oh look. Another post intended to stoke anxiety via elitism, just with a new angle. Have never seen this before.

It's a legitimate question. Clemson isn't even Syracuse or Pitt level.

This level of rankings obsession is like Zeno’s paradox of increasingly minute distances.

I love it when people call out others for being "rankings obsessed" and the others in question have said absolutely nothing about rankings.

DP. Both the OP and the “Clemson isn’t even Syracuse or Pitt level” poster either directly mention rankings or imply them.

Wrong about the Syracuse poster. They could've been talking about any number of factors including reputation amongst non academics, peer quality, endowment, or any number of factors not measured by most rankings. I would say (my opinion) that Virginia Tech is not on Tulane's level and that has nothing to do with rankings (which often rank Virginia Tech above Tulane due to social mobility and other factors like that.)

Sure, if you say so.

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I actually laughed when reading PP's post, especially the last sentence.
DP

Why? Tulane has higher test scores, endowment, wealthier student body, better salary outcomes... laughing at you being dumb!

Someone is extremely insecure ^^

And some school (Virginia Tech) is extremely insecure financially with students who will likely face similar financial insecurity. Also test score related insecurity.

What on earth did I just read?

[Anonymous]

A friend of mine and her whole family (parents, siblings) went to Harvard.

Her kids go to UMD and UDelaware

Personally I think this is a massive drop in status/ prestige but financially it made sense for them and so that is that.

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Anonymous wrote:How are you handling the real possibility of your kids experiencing downward mobility?

If you went to top schools and are living in a neighborhood/area/house and have a lifestyle similar to the t20->t6->big law partner path or an analogous path in your sector and your kid is going to Clemson, are they aware of the much narrower chance for them to have the same lifestyle as you

Oh look. Another post intended to stoke anxiety via elitism, just with a new angle. Have never seen this before.

It's a legitimate question. Clemson isn't even Syracuse or Pitt level.

This level of rankings obsession is like Zeno’s paradox of increasingly minute distances.

I love it when people call out others for being "rankings obsessed" and the others in question have said absolutely nothing about rankings.

DP. Both the OP and the “Clemson isn’t even Syracuse or Pitt level” poster either directly mention rankings or imply them.

Wrong about the Syracuse poster. They could've been talking about any number of factors including reputation amongst non academics, peer quality, endowment, or any number of factors not measured by most rankings. I would say (my opinion) that Virginia Tech is not on Tulane's level and that has nothing to do with rankings (which often rank Virginia Tech above Tulane due to social mobility and other factors like that.)

Sure, if you say so.

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I actually laughed when reading PP's post, especially the last sentence.
DP

Why? Tulane has higher test scores, endowment, wealthier student body, better salary outcomes... laughing at you being dumb!

Someone is extremely insecure ^^

And some school (Virginia Tech) is extremely insecure financially with students who will likely face similar financial insecurity. Also test score related insecurity.

Oh this definitely makes you sound confident.

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Looks like the middle schoolers have found this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:How are you handling the real possibility of your kids experiencing downward mobility?

If you went to top schools and are living in a neighborhood/area/house and have a lifestyle similar to the t20->t6->big law partner path or an analogous path in your sector and your kid is going to Clemson, are they aware of the much narrower chance for them to have the same lifestyle as you

Funny that the probability is high that if you had applied today with your “yesterday stats” you would likely not have had the chance to attend your top school…..

Clearly your kid is doomed. Hopefully you set up a nice trust fund so that your kid can benefit from your awesomeness…..otherwise, accept the fact your grandchildren will be working at McDonalds…

Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

yes, can confirm. and that is why MBB consulting and other big names recruit at elites.

I went to an ivy, majored in just about the most obscure humanities field you could imagine, have no marketable skills whatsoever, and still make low six figures on the strength of my soft skills alone. If you major in something halfway reasonable, life gets even easier.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

What is it you need? You clearly need something. What is it? Do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:How are you handling the real possibility of your kids experiencing downward mobility?

If you went to top schools and are living in a neighborhood/area/house and have a lifestyle similar to the t20->t6->big law partner path or an analogous path in your sector and your kid is going to Clemson, are they aware of the much narrower chance for them to have the same lifestyle as you

Oh look. Another post intended to stoke anxiety via elitism, just with a new angle. Have never seen this before.

It's a legitimate question. Clemson isn't even Syracuse or Pitt level.

This level of rankings obsession is like Zeno’s paradox of increasingly minute distances.

I love it when people call out others for being "rankings obsessed" and the others in question have said absolutely nothing about rankings.

DP. Both the OP and the “Clemson isn’t even Syracuse or Pitt level” poster either directly mention rankings or imply them.

Wrong about the Syracuse poster. They could've been talking about any number of factors including reputation amongst non academics, peer quality, endowment, or any number of factors not measured by most rankings. I would say (my opinion) that Virginia Tech is not on Tulane's level and that has nothing to do with rankings (which often rank Virginia Tech above Tulane due to social mobility and other factors like that.)

Sure, if you say so.

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I actually laughed when reading PP's post, especially the last sentence.
DP

Why? Tulane has higher test scores, endowment, wealthier student body, better salary outcomes... laughing at you being dumb!

Someone is extremely insecure ^^

And some school (Virginia Tech) is extremely insecure financially with students who will likely face similar financial insecurity. Also test score related insecurity.

Oh this definitely makes you sound confident.

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Looks like the middle schoolers have found this thread.

They always show up in the 9-11pm timeframe around here.

[Anonymous]

The CEO of Wal-mart went no Ivy league college - University of Tulsa. Berg of Levi Strauss went to Lafayette College. Ivy League may not mean anything in Mid-America.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

They don’t teach any of this. They overselect for students who are already successful and demonstrate they have these skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Statistically, it’s really unlikely. We’re an upper middle class family, both parents harvard alum. Our kids will end up fine going to “worse” schools. They’ll take up safe degrees in engineering and applied math and likely outearn us. I’m not expecting them to reach wealthy status, but it would be nice.

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