If you went to top schools but your kids are attending a lower tier, are you worried about downward mobility?

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely batshit thread.

This has to be a parody thread mocking all the insane DCUM elite or bust parents. Good job, OP. Sometimes satire is a better tool of showing the masses their stupidity vs. straight lecturing.

Agreed - definately mocking DCUM and some of the insane posters. I’m rather OP’s commitment to the bit.

I’m not here for your mockery. I’ve made my choice, and I’m serious. If you don’t believe me, fine, but my life is my life. It’s not a parody, and I’m not a joke for you to laugh at. I am a real person with authority over my life whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:What is MAiD?

Medical Aid in Dying. Might want to read back a few pages to see what you missed this afternoon.

DCUM is educational! MAiD defiantly apporiate for non T10 SLAC. Where do you draw the line with the BIG 10? Would Ohio State be acceptable if they win the championship next Monday?

A win doesn’t change the fact that it’s not in the tier I’ve set. I’m serious about my standards. This isn’t a joke about rankings or championships when my child’s future is on the line. I don’t appreciate the mockery. It’s about what is the best, not hype due to temporary factors.

Ohio State is definatly solid, with top tier engineering. Much better than GW for engineering. My questions is would engineering from GW be more acceptable than engineering from Ohio State even though Ohio States engineering department is much more highly ranked?

According to USNWR, Ohio State for undergrad overall is ranked much higher than GWU. OSO is #41; GWU is 67. Don't pay for poorly ranked privates over better ranked publics.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wait until you see some of the schools that Fortune 500 CEOs went to.

Considering that the Fortune 500 is a broad grouping and is weighted toward companies that do boring things like making toasters, baked beans, insulation, aluminum, etc it's not a surprise that you see a lot of state college grads there. Ivy grads tend to gravitate to the more interesting work in high finance, consulting, tech, etc.

Manufacturing companies are not boring to work at. Anyway, the companies you consider boring hire those high-priced grads by the month in the form of consultants. So those kids live in Boston on the weekends and have to pay a fortune in rent but spend weekdays in Peoria recommending how to more efficiently make insulation, how to lay off insulating manufacturing workers, etc. And if they aren't elevated to partner at their consulting company, they need to burrow in to a host. And that's usually a client. We have a life raft worth of ex-BCG consultants at my company. They're very good at making Powerpoints. Haven't developed any new business lines in 4 years, though.

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Anonymous wrote:What is MAiD?

Medical Aid in Dying. Might want to read back a few pages to see what you missed this afternoon.

The madness starts on page 11 with this post:

“As a mother, I believe in giving my child every opportunity to succeed. If they chose a path that didn’t lead to a university at least on par with George Washington University, I would seriously consider medically assisted death, because without that chance, life would lose its meaning for both of us.”

I work at GWU. It is fine, but not great. They have a very high acceptance rate: 49%

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Anonymous wrote:What is MAiD?

Medical Aid in Dying. Might want to read back a few pages to see what you missed this afternoon.

DCUM is educational! MAiD defiantly apporiate for non T10 SLAC. Where do you draw the line with the BIG 10? Would Ohio State be acceptable if they win the championship next Monday?

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A win doesn’t change the fact that it’s not in the tier I’ve set. I’m serious about my standards. This isn’t a joke about rankings or championships when my child’s future is on the line. I don’t appreciate the mockery. It’s about what is the best, not hype due to temporary factors.

Ohio State is definatly solid, with top tier engineering. Much better than GW for engineering. My questions is would engineering from GW be more acceptable than engineering from Ohio State even though Ohio States engineering department is much more highly ranked?

According to USNWR, Ohio State for undergrad overall is ranked much higher than GWU. OSO is #41; GWU is 67. Don't pay for poorly ranked privates over better ranked publics.

Exactly my point and OSU is elite at engineering, which is why I was curious about major ranking. I wonder how OP would feel about nursing at Penn.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking that MAiD might be more of a relief than a threat for your kid. Be careful, they might decide to go to community college.

If they choose community college, they’ll have made that decision for themselves and I’ll have my answer. But they will understand what that means in terms of where they end up. I’ve set the bar high for a reason. It’s about being the best version of themselves. I’m not backing off, and I’m not going to pretend it’s not a serious choice. I’ve already been in contact with Dignitas and am seeking membership. It’s not something I’ve taken lightly, and I want to make sure my child understands the gravity of the situation.

Can you use your HSA with Dignitas?

If this is a serious question, I’m not concerned about that right now. I’m focused on ensuring my child understands the seriousness of the situation and the importance of reaching their potential. Financial logistics aren’t the issue here. It’s about their future, not paperwork.

I was just curious about the process. I would love to be a fly on the wall as you explain to Dignitas that you need to do a MAiD because your child didn't get into a good enough university. Seems they might have to go off label to accommodate.

The process with Dignitas isn’t about me justifying my reasons to anyone. It’s about making a choice that aligns with my values and the standards I’ve set. If you think it’s unusual, that’s fine, but I’ve made it clear from the start that I’m serious about my decision. And if off-label is what it takes to make it happen, then so be it. It would be less ugly with Dignitas but I can do it right in the kitchen if that's what you want to happen.

Wow...

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a college not in the top 200. When I went there it was even lower ranked. DH went to a T15.

I make more and have more marketable skills.

Obviously, we are not worried about the ranking of our kids’ colleges. We do however emphasize the soft skills — being able to communicate concisely and effectively, working as a team, writing etc.

Higher ranked schools, particularly ivies, are famous for teaching soft skills. Don't let your superiority complex over your low earning husband stunt your children's development.

yes, can confirm. and that is why MBB consulting and other big names recruit at elites.

Have to appear smart and wealthy to con other smart and wealthy people.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cy0vYKI6_Y

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Anonymous wrote:The worry about downward mobility and college is NOT about the education but about the peer group.

This is the worry:
Kid that goes to Duke is going to be generally surrounded by financial-privileged, connected, worldly, and/or highly motivated students. Kid that goes to Radford is going to be generally surrounded by students that have a very narrow view of life, will stay in Virginia, are not worldly, will graduate with loans, have families that drag them down.

I am NOT saying that a Duke graduate can’t be a loafer, or a Radford graduate can’t be a successful CEO or doctor; I’m saying that the those of us with wealth but not generational wealth worry that our kid that goes to Radford will end of downward mobile because of peer group.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. There are plenty of high achieving kids from great families at Clemson. There are also kids who go to Duke whose families were not supportive of their academic journey. To boil it down to such generalities is silly and quite frankly you sound insane here. you can't curate who your kids are friends with as adults, may as well start figuring that out now.

You can't curate your kids' friends but you can increase their odds of having their peer group impact their mobility.

p.s. Let's stop using Clemson as the 'downward mobility' school example. Their retention rate is 94% and over half of the students are from outside of South Carolina. Retention rate at Radford is 73%, and 93% are from Virginia. Different odds.

DP. Almost 63% of Clemson students are from S. Carolina.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/clemson-university/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-breakdown.html

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Anonymous wrote:This has to be a troll.

Of course it is. I truly don't understand the posters who continue to engage.

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Anonymous wrote:Its far from an easy equation that going to a "top" school puts you in a "top" neighbohood. Lots of space between those two things. I went to a school ranked well over 125 and I'm 50 with 10M in assets. So do I actually think the USNWR rating matters? No, I do not. And while I appreciate the sentiment of wanting your kid to be happy and succesful, the weird way you wrap you.college into it - which I assume was MANY years ago, is more than a little weird.

Nobody as smart and successful as you claim to be thinks a kid’s college choice doesn’t matter.

Well, somehow it didnt matter for me. Data point: 1. You can wring your hands all you want but the reailty is that no name school grads are outearning the brand names in many places. Top 10 is a great launchpad, but I do think its sad if you think 4 years of college is going to decide your kids future. Maybe you have not had a kid go to college (I have) - it goes by in the blink of an eye and your child's character and grit take decades to cement. If you want a real network that pays, its PE, not college. Once you are deemed valuable, the sky is the limit and you can roll exit to exit to exit. I agree with the others who suggest you use your extensive social status to get your kids some therapy. You sound so insufferable and social standing chasing that your kid will never feel secure in being amazing at whatever they love and excel at. Peace out.