New curriculum = no homework?

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Anonymous wrote:This push for homework is pretty crazy. Kids don't need it, and if ppl say ot prepared them for tons in MS and HS, my question is why should they get tons at all?

Kids do need homework. In grade school, homework teaches children to manage their time and to manage their homework, to remember to bring it home and then bring it to school and turn it in. It also teaches them concepts/gives them practice. In middle and high school, homework gives practice of concepts that they learn in class.

Kids who play a sport, play an instrument, or have a hobby know that the more time you put in, the more lessons or classes you take, the more practice you do, the better you are. But somehow we don't apply that thought to homework anymore. And academically, it shows.

Homework is how I got out of a working class family and into college. The repetition/reinforcement provided by homework made all the difference both in learning and in school grades. Cancelling homework is really a way to trap people into the working class. Well off families still will supplement for their kids outside school, but working class families cannot afford to supplement (because working class parents have to focus on basics - having food, clothing, and shelter). That said, it IS important that homework be corrected & returned to the students, and also important that homework NOT be a significant part of any student’s grade.

This is why it's so sad that teachers are held to higher standard at wealthier schools. There they have to give homework and maintain reasonable standards of rigor or the parents revolt. In working class areas of the county we get no homework, because, I guess, some kids might not do it?

Some of the high socio economic schools banned homework as well.

+1. Sometimes high socio-economic families want their kids to be doing other enrichment (or free ranging, depending on the family) during that time. Also sometimes teachers just don't want to grade homework. I'm not calling all teachers lazy or anything - but I've literally been told that by multiple teachers across one grade at our elementary.

Grading homework isn’t necessary. Kids come to class and go over answers first thing with teacher. Challenging problems are worked out together as a class. It takes very little time to do this. If it’s a grade, it’s just graded for completion and a small percentage of overall grade.

It takes longer than you think this is not a five minute process.

In a block schedule in middle school, there's a lot of extra time in each class. But still no homework.

I teach MS, there is not as much extra time as you think.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Teachers know the material covered in class that day and can best tailor the homework to reinforce the concept. Students are also more amenable to doing homework assigned by school rather than by parents. Lastly, with all the focus on equity, why do we want to make homework something that needs to be purchased by parents as opposed to provided by school?

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

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I hate that formative work is only worth 30%. It’s way too time consuming for it to count that little.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

Assign math hw through Mathspace and it doesn’t have to be checked or reviewed in school. The students complete the problems, can get hints and watch videos that explain missed problems and they can then retry.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

Assign math hw through Mathspace and it doesn’t have to be checked or reviewed in school. The students complete the problems, can get hints and watch videos that explain missed problems and they can then retry.

They can also use Khan Academy, on their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

Assign math hw through Mathspace and it doesn’t have to be checked or reviewed in school. The students complete the problems, can get hints and watch videos that explain missed problems and they can then retry.

They can also use Khan Academy, on their own.

Yep. That’s true.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Teachers know the material covered in class that day and can best tailor the homework to reinforce the concept. Students are also more amenable to doing homework assigned by school rather than by parents. Lastly, with all the focus on equity, why do we want to make homework something that needs to be purchased by parents as opposed to provided by school?

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Just get a workbook is NOT the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

When I was in school teacher would walk around the room to spot check we all did it then we would run down the answers and go over a few examples in class. It was a normal follow up to the prior day’s lesson and handled during the day.

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

When I was in school teacher would walk around the room to spot check we all did it then we would run down the answers and go over a few examples in class. It was a normal follow up to the prior day’s lesson and handled during the day.

That works well in HS and maybe MS too. Would it work for ES?

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Anonymous wrote:Homework improves learning:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1228867.page

Why is FCPS abandoning a practice which has been proven to improve student's learning? (it is not difficult to figure out)

It has been proven to NOT improve learning.

The general consensus is that homework does correlate with achievement in middle and high school. Results are less clear for elementary, however, that may be influenced by the fact that struggling readers are assigned additional homework.

Makes zero sense to me how extra practice could NOT be beneficial for ES kids. There must be some other things going on with these studies as they just does not make sense.

It’s not beneficial if they are doing the extra practice incorrectly.

Is it likely that they would do every single homework assignment incorrectly?

Is that really your objection or are you just trolling? Do you have kids? Have you ever done anything yourself in your own life? Some of it will be wrong and some of it will be right. That's how you learn.

It wasn’t an objection, but rather a reply to the question that extra practice could “NOT be beneficial”.

For example, if a third grader has 15 division problems for hw and does all 15 incorrectly (which is very realistic if they don’t understand the process), then that student has just further cemented their misunderstanding and an incorrect way of doing the math.

DP Teachers can provide an answer key which alerts students (and family/others at home) that the student is on the wrong track. Also, for third grade division, much of the homework could be checked with flashcards, assuming the school provided these to students.

Or they just copy down the answers and show their parents and teachers that they got everything correct… it happens all the time.

In that case, homework does those students no good or harm. But, other students will do the homework and benefit. So, on net, it's beneficial to assign homework to the class.

Or the parents could buy a workbook, that works too.

Requiring parents to buy to pay for reinforcement is a good way to ensure working class kids do not get a fair break.

Assigning homework, correcting it, returned the corrected version, but not having homework count much for the final grade is how to help bright diligent working class kids get to college.

Mind, the FCPS School Board is "no action, talk only" about having a level playing field, so we can be confident that will not happen here. Sigh.

Teachers already work too much, they’ll not going to correct/grade optional work.

What job requirements/responsibilities should be scaled back so that teachers do have the time to review homework?

Assign math hw through Mathspace and it doesn’t have to be checked or reviewed in school. The students complete the problems, can get hints and watch videos that explain missed problems and they can then retry.

This appears to be FCPS's solution. From Mathspace: https://mathspace.co/us
"From the start, Mathspace has collaborated with the team to develop our district’s vision for this adoption, and custom-built a multi-year professional learning program. Our goal together has been to use this adoption as an opportunity to shift instructional practice in the district with thier help, we believe Mathspace can be a big factor in this transformation." FCPS HS Math supervisor

Seems unfortunate that the solution is parking students on a device. Families don't know what students are working on when it's on their device, which removes a potential source of support for students. Although, perhaps that's a plus for those who view family involvement as inequitable.