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Anonymous
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For the love of everything holy, why do you people care, especially you----person obsessed with STA?
The Ivy kids at these schools are almost entirely athletes, legacies and the kids of big donors--especially at Maret which is known for having particularly monied parents and the children of VIPs. (I bring up Maret only because STA poster says that Maret has such noteworthy results.) If a school has a exceptionally banner year it's because that year was exceptionally hooked. When GDS sends 6 kids to Harvard in a single year it's not because Harvard's admissions committee said down and said, "you know what, we newly believe in the mission of GDS over that of Sidwell or STA. Let's admit an expanded number of their grads". No, it's because GDS happened to have 2 athletic recruits that year plus a handful of legacies and a few more who were the children of VIPs. Then when GDS has a "DOWN" year it's not because the institution has declined or even taken a hit in the eyes of the colleges. It's because the kids applying are not hooked. I MEAN GEEZ PEOPLE. It's not rocket science. 80% or 90% of the kids coming from these private schools to the Ivies have some sort of back door hook. And there are many "hooks". Parents know board members, they have family members on the faculty, they have family members or former college roommates in the admissions office, etc. etc. There is SO MUCH stuff that goes on among families at these high schools and many other high schools like them across the US. Some is obvious (a parent's Linkedin proclaims: "Harvard, class of 1996) and MUCH of it is not (all of the aforementioned stuff). And it doesn't mean that these kids aren't qualified or can't do the work or won't go on to be top students at the Ivies. Because in my experience of watching this play out over 3 kids and 6+ years, the Ivy matriculants from the DC schools with very, very few exception have top academics too. This isn't NYC where applicants actually come with a BIG donation in hand. And it's only a BIG money donation (like 8 figures+) that's going to move the needle on a completely under-qualified applicant. |
Anonymous
False. You keep saying this which is a flat out lie. STA sent 2 student to Penn two years ago but as said STA kids don't apply to Brown normally but they do apply to Princeton, Dartmouth, Harvard and Yale and there are currently at least 5 STA kids at Princeton and another 5 or 6 at Dartmouth. Brown is socially not a good fit I know of noone that applied there. |
Anonymous
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STA had has >6 kids accepted to Penn over the past 3 years. My son was interested and we scrutinized the data. Acceptance and matriculation are not the same and some boys get into several top colleges. Brown has never been a top destination for STA boys and very few apply.
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Anonymous
Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA. |
Anonymous
The website is just a very general idea. Do you think they are actually going to post every single piece of data on there? They are showing a large range which believe it or not is actually attractive to many applicants. I am looking at the list of STA grads and where they are actually now for the past 5 years and about 75 percent are at top 25 universities and top 25 SLACS. The remaining 25% are mostly still at top 50 schools. Pretty amazing to me! |
Anonymous
TL;DR |
Anonymous
I have already said that if it’s true that STA sent 2 students to Penn two years ago, I stand corrected. Two is greater than zero, but not by much. What is not in dispute is the fact that STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. You will NEVER convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies. Most STA students are trying to go to the best college that admits them. That’s why 7-8 STA students go to Chicago each year—that’s the best they could do. |
Anonymous
It appears that even fewer (or none) actually get into Brown. It seems the distaste is mutual. |
Anonymous
What is your obsession with Brown and Penn? My kid was admitted to 2 Ivies from STA and did not apply to Penn or Brown. |
Anonymous
Why are you obsessed with Brown and Penn? It is weird. Why are you not mentioning that STA has more kids percentage wise at schools like Princeton or Dartmouth than any other school in the DMV? Princeton is ranked #1 btw... |
Anonymous
| STA sent 2 lax players to Penn in 2023. Bullis sends more kids to Penn than STA, both athletic and academic admits. |
Anonymous
My STA kid was accepted to 2 Ivies and did not visit or apply to Brown or Penn. So there is always that.... Bullis is a very large school btw..... |
Anonymous
That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard. STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size. |
Anonymous
I see that you struggle with reading comprehension. I simply pointed out that STA has sent 5 or fewer students to those two Ivies over the past 5 years. They are two of the best universities in the world, so I find that to be odd. There’s no obsession—I would make the same statement about any Ivies with such a dearth of STA students. Btw, STA has only sent 9 students to Princeton over the past 5 years (that averages out to 1-2 students per year). Those are pretty standard numbers for DC independent schools. Maret does better than STA with Ivies. |
Anonymous
Please stop. NCS sent at least 2 students to Princeton last year (c/o ‘24). STA isn’t special. |