Muslim mayor of Hamtranck, (the only majority Muslim city in the US) gives Trump his endorsement .

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Anonymous wrote:Harris is a woman. Muslim men would never consider a woman as a leader.


There are entire muslim countries that have elected a woman as the head of state.


Name them.

Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan.

There are quite a few more Muslim dominated countries, Europe and Africa, that have had female heads of state. Totally nothing like middle eastern countries that are Arab. No way close. Middle eastern Muslims are a different mindset and constantly at war since Jacob and Esau.


So now you’re moving the goal posts and going from bigotry to racism. First of all, the gulf states and the levant are completely different, but I wouldn’t expect someone with an agenda based in hate to make that distinction. You actually like the fact that the average dumb American thinks every woman over there is walking 12 paces behind her husband, can’t drive and wearing a sheet over her head. Second, the problem isn’t misogyny with leadership, it’s corrupt families handing each other power from within.

Third, your “always at war” crap: Putting aside the fact that you’ve just described Europe for most of history and the fact that most of the savagery against Jews was at the hands of European Christianity and put aside that you have an agenda against Arabs, when was the last time the west wasn’t involved in starting a war in the Middle East or invading? When was the last time unrest wasn’t at the hands of the west whether through overthrowing leaders, propping up puppets or arming fanatics? I’ll throw in Afghanistan and Iran while we’re at it.

You aren’t prepared to dissect what has actually occurred over there and why and how, because you’re stuck in that myopic ignorant, xenophobic mindset. People like you overrun the state department. The fact that someone like Stuart Seldowitz was directly involved in Israel-Palestine, should make you ashamed as an American.

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Anonymous wrote:You all seriously thought they would vote for a woman president? Laughing at you.

Exactly. Bigger misogynists than trumpie boy. Imagine.



What a surprise another bigot who thinks every Muslim is some nefarious caricature.

You think if Harris actually held Israel’s feet to the fire, they’d vote against her?

We are speaking of the Muslims in Michigan right. Yeah, misogyny reigns high in that community. Harris cannot hood Israel’s feet to the fire.

It’s no wonder that you would ask more of the first female vice presidents than have been asked if all the male Vice Presidents combined in the history of this country. VPS are second and third base. They are rarely seen and their positions are the POTUS position. Look how JD Vance positions are changing and morphing into Donald’s positions now. Now if Donald gets elected and does in office or resign, we will get JD’s position, a contributor to Project 2025. Fun times ahead.
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Anonymous wrote:When you watch some doughy state dept idiot who might as well have an Israeli flag behind him rather than the US flag, tell you the Israelis will investigate themselves after they
murdered yet another American citizen and you know that wouldn’t happen if Russia or any other country on this planet had murdered them and the media will barely (if at all), cover the murders —because people like Jake Tapper are considered your typical, “American” journalists as he’s screaming about everyone being an antisemite due to his own Zionism— then the hell with the US for basically telling us that despite being people who work, pay taxes, have educations, have people who serve whether in military or law enforcement, one foreign country can kill us with impunity.

I don’t know how anyone rationalizes their defense of a disastrous FP going on like this for so long and not comprehending that the US would’ve never had the enemies it had if it had actually prioritized Americans for all of these years, not endlessly lie, send hundreds of billions, break both US and Int’l law and protect from accountability one country created out of lies and the fact the west never paid for its own sins, and instead, made Palestinians pay for it.

And don’t think you’re immune from your country turning on you because you’re a good little American who sees no problem in laws violating your own 1A on behalf of one, foreign country. Slippery slope.


I would be the first person and have said many times that Biden has been totally wrong in this Gaza Israeli situation. Biden is old and from the 1960’s Israeli- Arab war and has been acting as if things have not changed and the environment remains the same. Additional Weapons should not have been provided, but that’s Biden 1968 mentality. And trump operates under that same way of thinking. I believe Harris would treat both Israel and Gaza differently if in control, but she is not. New generation of thought. And definitely not a Netanyahu butt licker like both Trump and Biden.


This. And frankly this is why Harris is better on a whole host of issues. It’s time for silent generation and the boomers to move aside.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harris is a woman. Muslim men would never consider a woman as a leader.


There are entire muslim countries that have elected a woman as the head of state.


Name them.

Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan.

There are quite a few more Muslim dominated countries, Europe and Africa, that have had female heads of state. Totally nothing like middle eastern countries that are Arab. No way close. Middle eastern Muslims are a different mindset and constantly at war since Jacob and Esau.


So now you’re moving the goal posts and going from bigotry to racism. First of all, the gulf states and the levant are completely different, but I wouldn’t expect someone with an agenda based in hate to make that distinction. You actually like the fact that the average dumb American thinks every woman over there is walking 12 paces behind her husband, can’t drive and wearing a sheet over her head. Second, the problem isn’t misogyny with leadership, it’s corrupt families handing each other power from within.

Third, your “always at war” crap: Putting aside the fact that you’ve just described Europe for most of history and the fact that most of the savagery against Jews was at the hands of European Christianity and put aside that you have an agenda against Arabs, when was the last time the west wasn’t involved in starting a war in the Middle East or invading? When was the last time unrest wasn’t at the hands of the west whether through overthrowing leaders, propping up puppets or arming fanatics? I’ll throw in Afghanistan and Iran while we’re at it.

You aren’t prepared to dissect what has actually occurred over there and why and how, because you’re stuck in that myopic ignorant, xenophobic mindset. People like you overrun the state department. The fact that someone like Stuart Seldowitz was directly involved in Israel-Palestine, should make you ashamed as an American.



The point I am making is it has nothing to do with her being a woman. Why is there an assumption that most Muslims would even vote for Trump because of this one idiot mayor? If you think most Muslims are voting based on some simplistic man vs woman, that in itself is the problem. At what point do you drop the bigotry and your simplistic characterization of Muslims?

Most Muslims are not voting for Trump because he’s a man and most Muslims are not voting against Harris because she’s a woman. Do you think most Muslims don’t want their daughters going to college and becoming educated? Do you think a Muslim man wouldn’t be proud of his own daughter being elected to office?

Just a sidenote to show you how ignorant sone of you are: In Gaza, despite the hell on earth created by Israel, the literacy rate was 98%. The person with the highest GPA was a young woman and her parents were so proud that she was going to college. Israel killed her and her whole family.

Stop pretending you think you know what every Muslim is like on this planet and stop thinking that making a distinction between Southeast Asia and the Middle East, makes you more educated on the matter. Some of you are so disgustingly bigoted and racist and you can’t even see it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harris is a woman. Muslim men would never consider a woman as a leader.


There are entire muslim countries that have elected a woman as the head of state.


Name them.

Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan.

There are quite a few more Muslim dominated countries, Europe and Africa, that have had female heads of state. Totally nothing like middle eastern countries that are Arab. No way close. Middle eastern Muslims are a different mindset and constantly at war since Jacob and Esau.


So now you’re moving the goal posts and going from bigotry to racism. First of all, the gulf states and the levant are completely different, but I wouldn’t expect someone with an agenda based in hate to make that distinction. You actually like the fact that the average dumb American thinks every woman over there is walking 12 paces behind her husband, can’t drive and wearing a sheet over her head. Second, the problem isn’t misogyny with leadership, it’s corrupt families handing each other power from within.

Third, your “always at war” crap: Putting aside the fact that you’ve just described Europe for most of history and the fact that most of the savagery against Jews was at the hands of European Christianity and put aside that you have an agenda against Arabs, when was the last time the west wasn’t involved in starting a war in the Middle East or invading? When was the last time unrest wasn’t at the hands of the west whether through overthrowing leaders, propping up puppets or arming fanatics? I’ll throw in Afghanistan and Iran while we’re at it.

You aren’t prepared to dissect what has actually occurred over there and why and how, because you’re stuck in that myopic ignorant, xenophobic mindset. People like you overrun the state department. The fact that someone like Stuart Seldowitz was directly involved in Israel-Palestine, should make you ashamed as an American.



The point I am making is it has nothing to do with her being a woman. Why is there an assumption that most Muslims would even vote for Trump because of this one idiot mayor? If you think most Muslims are voting based on some simplistic man vs woman, that in itself is the problem. At what point do you drop the bigotry and your simplistic characterization of Muslims?

Most Muslims are not voting for Trump because he’s a man and most Muslims are not voting against Harris because she’s a woman. Do you think most Muslims don’t want their daughters going to college and becoming educated? Do you think a Muslim man wouldn’t be proud of his own daughter being elected to office?

Just a sidenote to show you how ignorant sone of you are: In Gaza, despite the hell on earth created by Israel, the literacy rate was 98%. The person with the highest GPA was a young woman and her parents were so proud that she was going to college. Israel killed her and her whole family.

Stop pretending you think you know what every Muslim is like on this planet and stop thinking that making a distinction between Southeast Asia and the Middle East, makes you more educated on the matter. Some of you are so disgustingly bigoted and racist and you can’t even see it.


Sorry, I was doing this on my phone and I formatted incorrectly. The above response was in response to the person who said I expected more from Harris than any other nominee.
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Anonymous wrote: I think there is lots of anger at Biden/Harris for the Israel/Gaza war to keep going.

It seems many Muslims won’t vote for Harris and will stay Home.


And then they will discover how much worse trump will be for them, the hard way.


Muslim here and life long democrat. I can't bring myself to vote for Harris because of genocide. Trump might as well be worse but there is an element of unpredictability in Trump that I'm willing to take this time. I know exactly what Biden/Harris are doing.


Another Muslim here who has always voted democrat. I’ll be voting for Harris because our democracy is at risk.

And yes, many Muslim-Americans vote republican because they are traditionally more conservative.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I think there is lots of anger at Biden/Harris for the Israel/Gaza war to keep going.

It seems many Muslims won’t vote for Harris and will stay Home.


And then they will discover how much worse trump will be for them, the hard way.


Muslim here and life long democrat. I can't bring myself to vote for Harris because of genocide. Trump might as well be worse but there is an element of unpredictability in Trump that I'm willing to take this time. I know exactly what Biden/Harris are doing.



Smart decision. make sure this country falls apart and then we won't be able to help anyone. Ever heard of putting on your oxygen mask first? We need to vote what is best for this country, first. I am sure you are not a Muslim voting for Trump nor a democrat.


Ah the old "you ain't black" but Muslim addition. Racists show themselves every time.


Ah: The old of course I’m who I claim to be — as an anonymous poster on the internet. I almost wrote “anonymous person”, but these days it could just be a bot.


Right.because it's inconceivable that a minority could think for themselves and come to a different conclusion than what you deemed acceptable. Must be a bot. At least you are consistent and on brand for the democratic party.
Anonymous
Why wouldn't a Muslim support the Republican party... They stand for religious oppression at this point, which is pretty much what the Middle East stands for as well
Anonymous
Well. Immigrants had best figure out their “serial numbers”.

In his first administration he tried to put the brakes on anyone entering from majority Muslim countries.

Then he moved on to the blood libel of the Haitians.

Now he’s going for “serial numbers.”


https://newrepublic.com/post/186239/donald-trump-full-holocaust-immigration

under his potential second administration, he would round up and mass-deport noncitizens based on their “serial numbers.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't a Muslim support the Republican party... They stand for religious oppression at this point, which is pretty much what the Middle East stands for as well

+1 Taliban and extreme right wing are basically the opposite sides of the same coin.
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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't a Muslim support the Republican party... They stand for religious oppression at this point, which is pretty much what the Middle East stands for as well

+1 Taliban and extreme right wing are basically the opposite sides of the same coin.


Yeah... The Taliban and American Muslims are totally the same amirite??
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It's refreshing to see what you really think about minorities that step out of line.
Anonymous
No one thinks the minority is stepping out of line. In fact, we agree that they should probably vote for the Republican party given their ideals seem to be the same
Anonymous
Take a tip from the BLM movement and how Trump and his cronies responded to them.

Your kids planning on camping out at some square to protest? Watch out the military doesn't turn out for them.

Sure, I can tell when someone has closed their ears to logic. I live near many Trump supporters. Don't believe me if you want.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I think there is lots of anger at Biden/Harris for the Israel/Gaza war to keep going.

It seems many Muslims won’t vote for Harris and will stay Home.


And then they will discover how much worse trump will be for them, the hard way.


Muslim here and life long democrat. I can't bring myself to vote for Harris because of genocide. Trump might as well be worse but there is an element of unpredictability in Trump that I'm willing to take this time. I know exactly what Biden/Harris are doing.



Smart decision. make sure this country falls apart and then we won't be able to help anyone. Ever heard of putting on your oxygen mask first? We need to vote what is best for this country, first. I am sure you are not a Muslim voting for Trump nor a democrat.


Ah the old "you ain't black" but Muslim addition. Racists show themselves every time.


Ah: The old of course I’m who I claim to be — as an anonymous poster on the internet. I almost wrote “anonymous person”, but these days it could just be a bot.


Right.because it's inconceivable that a minority could think for themselves and come to a different conclusion than what you deemed acceptable. Must be a bot. At least you are consistent and on brand for the democratic party.


Please don’t put words in my mouth. I hope you realize that there are multiple people in this thread. My ONLY point here is that anonymous posters could be who they claim to be — or might not be. That’s it. You have absolutely no idea what I deem “acceptable “ or not, and I’m fine with that. Peace out.
Anonymous
As someone who grew up in SE MI and is very familiar with the region and its politics, I just say please do not conflate the Bangladeshi and Yemeni Muslim communities from Hamtramck with the Muslim population in Dearborn.

Also, know that the Middle Eastern population of SE MI is not some sort of monolith. Frankly, the Chaldean and Christian Lebanese population (mostly east side suburbs) usually will not hold hands with Muslims on many issues. The old world BS that the Christians had to endure still remains with them to this day. Those scars don’t heal.
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