The End of Feminism? Young Men Prefer Traditional Gender Roles

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, they're just going to find out no one wants to date or marry them with those attitudes.

There are many many young women who want a guy who makes all the money and they can stay home. That is also pretty common now. Income and will pay for everything is very high on most young women’s lists.

Have you ever noticed that a lot of the guys who want a SAHM traditional partner are the same guys who will never crack 65k/year?

I think there are two different camps in this whole discussion.

There are those men that want a stay at home because they feel that is where a woman belongs and they are lazy and want everything done for them and have that traditional view regardless of income. And want the security of knowing the woman is 100% reliant on them.

Then there are men who want a SAH because that is what works best for the family as whole. It allows them to pursue or stay in a higher earning career. They have some that can hold down the fort and not worry about juggling schedules when they have an extra long work day. They realize the ease of logistics, especially when planning vacations. The wife has more flexibility and security because of a better financial situation. I will the latter is more common in the DC area.

Unf the first bucket male view of women applies whether they work fulltime or not.

And that is the crux if the problem and divorces and resentment and destruction of relationships.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a working woman with a husband who does 50/50 at home and is supportive of my career.

However if I could do it all over again I would look for a more traditional marriage with gender roles.

The vast majority of women seemed to get screwed over working a man’s job and also being a wife and mom. Now there is an expectation that a woman has a demanding career and do everything at home.

Never heard nor saw this “expectation.”

Who has this expectation?

I believe it was first pointed out in "The Second Shift." Have you read it?

If you're the same person who thought that women didn't have kids out of wedlock then you're just all over this thread being confidently wrong.

No I don’t care about neither of those other things.

That's fine. Have a great day.

Talking about a book and a baby momma thread isn’t answering the question.

[url]WHO exactly, in society, has the expectation that women should (a) work a demanding job, and (b) do everything in the household?

Who? [/url]

Describe them. In detail.

Don’t know. Why is saying or behaving like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a working woman with a husband who does 50/50 at home and is supportive of my career.

However if I could do it all over again I would look for a more traditional marriage with gender roles.

The vast majority of women seemed to get screwed over working a man’s job and also being a wife and mom. Now there is an expectation that a woman has a demanding career and do everything at home.

Never heard nor saw this “expectation.”

Who has this expectation?

I believe it was first pointed out in "The Second Shift." Have you read it?

If you're the same person who thought that women didn't have kids out of wedlock then you're just all over this thread being confidently wrong.

No I don’t care about neither of those other things.

That's fine. Have a great day.

Talking about a book and a baby momma thread isn’t answering the question.

WHO exactly, in society, has the expectation that women should (a) work a demanding job, and (b) do everything in the household?

Who?

Describe them. In detail.

No idea. Who?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a working woman with a husband who does 50/50 at home and is supportive of my career.

However if I could do it all over again I would look for a more traditional marriage with gender roles.

The vast majority of women seemed to get screwed over working a man’s job and also being a wife and mom. Now there is an expectation that a woman has a demanding career and do everything at home.

Never heard nor saw this “expectation.”

Who has this expectation?

I am young Gen X and this expectation is exactly correct because it’s been the expectation for people my age for the last 20 years.

Nope. Don’t know them.

Sounds like some real lazy, selfish losers, who shouldn’t be married or having kids.

- 1979 dob

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unpopular but true opinion is that being a housewife is an amazing job. You don't have a boss. You can wakeup whenever you want most days. The lions share of chores are a cinch. Wow, throw in laundry and go run on the treadmill for an hour. Throw in dryer and stream Netflix vids.

Why would you want a stressful professional job that kills you and makes you die early?

Gen Z women have figure out that the working world is overrated and for suckers.

It kills your brain cells, and dealing with children all day, even your own, can wear on you. Most people, women and men, don't absolutely love being with kids all day.

I've done it all - wohm, wfh, PT, FT, sahm. Yes, the stress went down when I became a sahm, but I also found my brain was atrophying. PT was the best of both worlds. However, once the kids hit MS, and they don't need you as much, you get bored. One can only do so much laundry and cleaning.

My sister is a care taker. Always has been. She desperately wanted to be a sahm with a small house. Didn't work that way for her. She divorced her deadbeat husband and became a single mom who had to work, starting from scratch because she had given up her career when she married her deadbeat husband.

Hyperbolic nonsense. My grandmother was one of the smartest persons I've ever met. She was stay at home wife. She read the news paper everyday and did crossword puzzles. She read books. She read national geographic. She'd meet up with local wives for games of bridge.

Working as a stay at home wife kills your brain cells only if you choose poorly, like virtually everything else in life. Dealing with kids is nothing compared to a soul sucking corporate job with stress levels through the roof. It literally kills you and makes you die early from heart attacks and stroke.

#melodramatic

#uninformed

Your knowledge of different types of FT jobs and careers is impressive. The comparison to Grandma in the 1950s is a nice touch as well.

[Anonymous]

Wait, are you saying men don't want to clean the house and be the caregiver to their kids? And this means feminism is over with Gen Z? And it is over BCS young men want it? So, our DDs should just learn to mop and shut up and be barefoot and pregnant?
And what is over exactly? The desire of men not to lift a finger at home and have women do everything? How can something be over if it was never actually happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unpopular but true opinion is that being a housewife is an amazing job. You don't have a boss. You can wakeup whenever you want most days. The lions share of chores are a cinch. Wow, throw in laundry and go run on the treadmill for an hour. Throw in dryer and stream Netflix vids.

Why would you want a stressful professional job that kills you and makes you die early?

Gen Z women have figure out that the working world is overrated and for suckers.

It kills your brain cells, and dealing with children all day, even your own, can wear on you. Most people, women and men, don't absolutely love being with kids all day.

I've done it all - wohm, wfh, PT, FT, sahm. Yes, the stress went down when I became a sahm, but I also found my brain was atrophying. PT was the best of both worlds. However, once the kids hit MS, and they don't need you as much, you get bored. One can only do so much laundry and cleaning.

My sister is a care taker. Always has been. She desperately wanted to be a sahm with a small house. Didn't work that way for her. She divorced her deadbeat husband and became a single mom who had to work, starting from scratch because she had given up her career when she married her deadbeat husband.

Hyperbolic nonsense. My grandmother was one of the smartest persons I've ever met. She was stay at home wife. She read the news paper everyday and did crossword puzzles. She read books. She read national geographic. She'd meet up with local wives for games of bridge.

Working as a stay at home wife kills your brain cells only if you choose poorly, like virtually everything else in life. Dealing with kids is nothing compared to a soul sucking corporate job with stress levels through the roof. It literally kills you and makes you die early from heart attacks and stroke.

Many of us are not working corporate jobs. I am teacher. Love my job. A lot of women experience more stress dealing with their husbands than they do at work.

Truth!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. The link does not say what OP claims, but to the extent this is true, it’s a reflection of the larger political schism between young men and young women, which is unprecedented in recent history.

Oh please do you read this forum? Many of the post are about only dating men who support traditionally gender - paying for the date, asking the woman out, etc, etc.

Remember this one https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1221994.page

That just shows how out of touch DCUM is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unpopular but true opinion is that being a housewife is an amazing job. You don't have a boss. You can wakeup whenever you want most days. The lions share of chores are a cinch. Wow, throw in laundry and go run on the treadmill for an hour. Throw in dryer and stream Netflix vids.

Why would you want a stressful professional job that kills you and makes you die early?

Gen Z women have figure out that the working world is overrated and for suckers.

If you have a daughter tell her to be a housewife champ. She will be a winner the way you are talking lol

No, she will not be. Don't you know your history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The unpopular but true opinion is that being a housewife is an amazing job. You don't have a boss. You can wakeup whenever you want most days. The lions share of chores are a cinch. Wow, throw in laundry and go run on the treadmill for an hour. Throw in dryer and stream Netflix vids.

Why would you want a stressful professional job that kills you and makes you die early?

Gen Z women have figure out that the working world is overrated and for suckers.

Tell me you have never been a stay home parent without telling me. In fact, tell me you never had kids and live in mother’s basement. You cannot wake up whenever you want. Lol. You get up when your kids get up. You get up when they have early morning lacrosse camps and when your three year old doesn’t sleep past 5:30 AM. I have been a SAHM mom for 20 years. Husband has a demanding high net worth job. It is lonely and boring. Though still the right choice for our family as a whole.

Not PP but I get up whenever I want. After 3rd grade DH took over morning duties and has always done 95% of drop offs and pick ups.

I’m PP. I do everything in our house because I don’t have a job. And my husband works long stressful hours. You sound really lazy. You can’t pull yourself out of bed to take care of your kids and take a responsibility off your husband’s plate? Wow.

He’ll eventually divorce her ass. I promise you he is resentful and biding his time until the kids are older.

[Anonymous]

Everybody is so calculating. It’s stupid. It’s chasing the air ending up with dissatisfaction, frustration and eventually death and to be forgotten within a year. The cycle repeats with the next generation of deluded and lost.

[Anonymous]

Who cares what they want?

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's all just "young men" who prefer the traditional roles....

There is a "tradwife" trend: https://abcnews.go.com/US/tradwife-lifestyle-trends-social-media-internet-divided/story?id=111327508

My DD who has been in long-term relationship with SO (HS sweetheart) is a new teacher and tells me she plans to take a break from teaching when she has kids to be able spend at least the first years with them instead of going back to work after just 12 weeks. DD also states she wants kids before 30. If that's the end of feminism then I fully support it.

I went to work after 12 weeks and continued to work in the corporate world - while I did and still do have a flexible work-life balance...DD still remembers the "crunch" and "stressful" times when I still had to do a little work even while on PTO. But what works for me and my life isn't going to work for hers and that's perfectly fine - she is not my clone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's all just "young men" who prefer the traditional roles....

There is a "tradwife" trend: https://abcnews.go.com/US/tradwife-lifestyle-trends-social-media-internet-divided/story?id=111327508

My DD who has been in long-term relationship with SO (HS sweetheart) is a new teacher and tells me she plans to take a break from teaching when she has kids to be able spend at least the first years with them instead of going back to work after just 12 weeks. DD also states she wants kids before 30. If that's the end of feminism then I fully support it.

I went to work after 12 weeks and continued to work in the corporate world - while I did and still do have a flexible work-life balance...DD still remembers the "crunch" and "stressful" times when I still had to do a little work even while on PTO. But what works for me and my life isn't going to work for hers and that's perfectly fine - she is not my clone.

That’s not what “feminism” is. Maybe your DD can explain it to you like you’re in Kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's all just "young men" who prefer the traditional roles....

There is a "tradwife" trend: https://abcnews.go.com/US/tradwife-lifestyle-trends-social-media-internet-divided/story?id=111327508

My DD who has been in long-term relationship with SO (HS sweetheart) is a new teacher and tells me she plans to take a break from teaching when she has kids to be able spend at least the first years with them instead of going back to work after just 12 weeks. DD also states she wants kids before 30. If that's the end of feminism then I fully support it.

I went to work after 12 weeks and continued to work in the corporate world - while I did and still do have a flexible work-life balance...DD still remembers the "crunch" and "stressful" times when I still had to do a little work even while on PTO. But what works for me and my life isn't going to work for hers and that's perfectly fine - she is not my clone.

"Tradwife" is an Internet grift for morons, not a lifestyle trend