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Out of curiosity I pulled "not economically disadvantaged" PARCC scores for all middle school grades. I think the key takeaway for me is that there is clearly value in knowing both the percentage AND number of students passing within a demographic. (I would maybe also argue that a significantly higher number of "not economically disadvantaged" students at a school seems correlated with higher pass rate for those students.)
Obviously there are still a wide range of incomes represented in "not economically disadvantaged," likely accounting for some of the differences in pass percentages below. Still , I personally find this more useful than "white" as a proxy for UMC/MC, particularly as the data is more available/less likely to be suppressed. Middle school ELA 4s and 5s for those not economically disadvantaged: Deal 82% (982 students) Latin Cooper 75% (54) BASIS 74% (288) Latin 73% (254) Hardy 73% (327) Oyster-Adams 71% (129) Inspired Teaching 64% (61) DCI 59% (374) Center City Trinidad 59% (17) DC Prep Benning 58% (38) Eliot-Hine 58% (72) Sojourner Truth 58% (68) School Without Walls at Francis Stevens 57% (86) Center City Congress Heights 56% (19) Stuart-Hobson 55% (137) Center City Brightwood 55% (23) Washington Global 54% (37) Paul 53% (65) Two Rivers 52% (80) Capitol Hill Montessori 52% (27) Wheatley 50% (6) Middle school Math 4s and 5s for those not economically disadvantaged: Deal 69% (823) BASIS 65% (254) Hardy 60% (269) Latin Cooper 58% (42) Latin 57% (197) DCI 45% (286) DC Prep Edgewood 38% (38) Center City Congress Heights 35% (12) Eliot-Hine 33% (41) School Without Walls at Francis-Stevens 32% (50) Sojourner Truth 32% (37) Center City Brightwood 31% (13) KIPP KEY 29% (36) Center City Trinidad 29% (8) KIPP Honor 28% (19) Center City Petworth 26% (11) DC Prep Benning 26% (17) Stuart-Hobson 26% (64) Note: in math, data is suppressed for some schools including Oyster-Adams, Inspired Teaching, and Two Rivers |
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I realize I love looking at data more than the average person, but part of what is interesting about it (and has already been mentioned on this thread) is how it can be displayed/presented in so many different ways. I appreciate how this poster put the total number of students achieving a score. Because depending on how you look at/care about the data, it can be interpreted differently. Everybody on here always talks about 'I want my child to have a large enough cohort to be advanced with, etc.' Some of these schools are just bigger sample sizes, but when you get to the smaller/mid-sized ones, for math for example -- Latin Cooper and EH have almost the same size number of kids scoring 4/5. Stuart Hobson looks to be at the bottom, but they have a higher number of kids scoring 4/5 then all but 4 of those schools. Similar in ELA - many schools towards the bottom had higher numbers of kids scoring 4/5 than schools above them. So if the concern is truthfully 'will there be enough kids scoring at 'x' test score so my kid can have their cohort - at least to me, this data kind of reinforces what some people have been saying all along. There are lots of options to choose from that have a good cohort of high achievers (again, if you are using PARCC as your metric for high achievement). In the end, like was said yesterday, I don't think anybody is suggesting EH or any Cap Hill MS is the magical perfect school, just showing that there are kids doing well there. I find those spreadsheets so clunky, so thanks to whoever pulled this data out! |
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Your general point still stands, but Cooper/E-H isn't really a good comparison because this data is from SY22-23 when Cooper only had 5th and 6th grades. |
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Nobody is suggesting EH is a “magical perfect school” because 33% proficient in a “not economically disadvantaged” category is abysmal. |
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Exactly, I don't think anybody on this thread who actually sends their kids there has ever tried to say probably was referring to the PP who wrote ". The poster that cherry picked one specific grade worth of a handful of white kids and tried to claim that EH is some kind of academic powerhouse is a different story. That was pure data manipulation and a gross attempt to mislead others." Point is there are kids doing well at different schools, more at some and less at others, let's call it a day and stop this circular argument! |
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Only 33% of the not economically disadvantage students could get a 4 on PARCC? What on earth is going on at EH?? 70% of these students should earn a 4 simply by not being economically disadvantaged. Is EH making these students worse than they should be? |
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Middle school math scores are pretty abysmal across the board. In the list above I ordered all schools by proficiency rate down to 25%. The only schools significantly higher than E-H are Deal, Hardy, BASIS, the Latins, and DCI, all places where "not economically disadvantaged" likely skews significantly more UMC than EotP neighborhood schools do. It's not good but it's not a unique problem to E-H either. |
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It's also not significantly different from Stuart Hobson's. What do you suggest for people in Capitol Hill? Just have the kids drop out of school after 5th grade? |
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If you’re asking for advice: Latin, BASIS, DCI, Deal/Hardy feeder, private, moving … lots of options. |
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Isn't the definition "at risk" rather than "economically disadvantaged" ?
"At risk" just means homeless, foster care, or qualify for TANF, right? That still makes "not at risk" a pretty broad category. A straightforward SES measure like HHI would be much better. It's frustrating that DC doesn't collect/provide that as a variable. |
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From the Empower site: "In 2023, OSSE switched from reporting 'At-risk' to 'Economically Disadvantaged' student groups. The universe of students in these two groups nearly overlaps. The only difference are the few students in high school who were overage for their grade and not economically disadvantaged. The number of students in that group is too small to affect citywide rates, so we continue to use the 'at-risk' label. It is possible that at a select few high schools the difference could be more significant." |
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Kids who get 5s in Math in 3rd grade apply to BASIS |
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We ranked BASIS last for my DS who fits that description, but has a hard time with testing/rote memorization/too much structure. Luckily he had a good lottery number. (Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying.) |
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| I can’t believe you losers are still obsessively focused on schools being “bad.” Get a life. Move to Fairfax or whatever. |
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“Not economically disadvantaged” is a very broad category and may include a lot of students whose parents don’t submit the data. EH also has several self-contained SN classrooms that may be included in that tally. The fact remains that if your kid goes into EH scoring 4s/5s they will leave with 4s and 5s. Only you can say if the contamination of being with less-advantaged kids outweighs the positives. |