Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out? |
Nah. The only reason they are less motivated to pursue is the abundance and proliferation of p0rn. Soon enough it will be sex robots. |
Men have no incentive to pursue. Plus women have made it clear they want the bear not the man. Maybe look to the bears for a date? |
As a woman, I advise all women who care to listen to let the man make the first move. Always. If he doesn’t then move on. I want to be with a man who has confidence, knows what he wants, and goes after it. That’s it. If he is too timid/scared/nervous to approach me then obviously we aren’t a good fit. The beginnings of a relationship really do matter. |
+100 |
Men say they like women who make moves, and if she makes more money- great! But in real life they often seem to feel emasculated by independent women. Sad |
Why does it make a man weak if he doesn't do that doesn't mean he won't be able to protect you? I never understood that goddamn logic why going after what you want is part of masculinity |
Po here. My grandparents met in the finals of a tennis tournament playing mixed doubles against each other. She thought he was cute, he liked that she got along so well with her brother, who was her tennis partner. The prizes for the winner and runner up were trophy plates. At the trophy ceremony she said, “maybe we could have dinner off these sometime.” |
I’ve been asked out by a few women and I never found it strange. They were women I met in class or at work. I suppose they had had time to check me out and figure I wasn’t a masher. Each relationship listed about a year and ended when either school ended or a job change required a relocation., |
As a woman from a pretty conservative family and country, I was taught that’s it’s okay for the lady to make the first move. Like, touch his elbow, say a compliment and see if he reciprocates, suggest a joint activity. But you let him court you after. If he doesn’t - move on.
The beginning of the relationship is very important - I don’t feel wanted if I am the one who has always to ask him out, plan dates etc. |
Because internalized misogyny. |
Because you don't do anything else re: relationship labor so the least you can do is show the littlest bit of initiative and ask a woman out. Women know this is probably the last time they won't have to do EVERYTHING. |
Sounds like men had a PR problem and rather than pout about it perhaps change their actions so they can change the narrative. |
Sounds like you had plenty of notice on who he was. Sorry you married an a$$. |
Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with: 1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy. |