Turning down top private for state school

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

Yes community college is good for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

Yes community college is good for everyone.

NP here. I'm just reading this thread, and I find myself very curious about you. Why this level of dedicated trolling? Do you find it fun and/or do you have other motives? Can you tell us a.litle about yourself? Young or old? Parent of college students or not? What is your job? Do you have other hobbies? Do you live in the DC area?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

Yes community college is good for everyone.

NP here. I'm just reading this thread, and I find myself very curious about you. Why this level of dedicated trolling? Do you find it fun and/or do you have other motives? Can you tell us a.litle about yourself? Young or old? Parent of college students or not? What is your job? Do you have other hobbies? Do you live in the DC area?

Do not disparage CC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did that. Not quite Harvard, but turned down Duke, Cornell, and Dartmouth engineering to go to UMD. It was the decision between graduating debt free or $100k+ in debt.

Ironically at my first job my cube mate came from Yale, so I'm not sure it made much of a difference in the end. Part of me still wonders "what if?" 20 years later, but I'm not sad with how my life turned out.

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There are Googlers who graduated from top tier who work along side state u grads. I worked with someone from Cornell; I graduated from no name state u.

I never understand this reasoning. Unless you can prove Google hires in the same proportion from Harvard vs a specific State U, it doesn’t verify anything.

If Google hires 50 from Harvard and only 10 from UVA…well the odds are significantly better at Harvard.

Google hires a lot from SJSU (because of proximity mostly). Does that make it better than UVA? Would someone really pick SJSU over UVA coming from oos?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did that. Not quite Harvard, but turned down Duke, Cornell, and Dartmouth engineering to go to UMD. It was the decision between graduating debt free or $100k+ in debt.

Ironically at my first job my cube mate came from Yale, so I'm not sure it made much of a difference in the end. Part of me still wonders "what if?" 20 years later, but I'm not sad with how my life turned out.

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There are Googlers who graduated from top tier who work along side state u grads. I worked with someone from Cornell; I graduated from no name state u.

I never understand this reasoning. Unless you can prove Google hires in the same proportion from Harvard vs a specific State U, it doesn’t verify anything.

If Google hires 50 from Harvard and only 10 from UVA…well the odds are significantly better at Harvard.

Google hires a lot from SJSU (because of proximity mostly). Does that make it better than UVA? Would someone really pick SJSU over UVA coming from oos?

If you want to work at Google or other Silicon Valley companies…yes. You answered your own question.

However this thread is UVA vs Harvard, so not sure why you are mentioning SJSU.

The point is that sure, Google hires kids from anywhere…but if they hire 40 from a class of 1500 but only 10 from a class of 5000…well your odds are much better from the former.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

the correct phrase is "couldn't care less".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

What?! There are top of the class kids that consider UVA a backup, yes, but if they are smart and kind they do that very quietly!
You and your kids are certainly not kind. Come off it, "deal with poverty"?
You clearly do not have a kid at what you must consider a "good" school such as an ivy. I have one. There are a large amount of full-need kiddos who can barely afford getting food off campus or having to buy a single extra book above their book allowance, many more poor kids than 30 yrs ago. Being around folks who are more poor than oneself, sometimes significantly more poor, is an important aspect of education and understanding fellow humanity. My kid is no where near the richest but they would never condemn and mock fellow students like you have. I grew up very poor and am now an MD, not at all poor (full pay), and I cringe hearing you make fun of poverty. My kid and their ivy friends would never do this, neither would their very good kind friends at UVA. They have perspective. Maybe try to get some. And, furthermore, there is nothing wrong with community college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

What?! There are top of the class kids that consider UVA a backup, yes, but if they are smart and kind they do that very quietly!
You and your kids are certainly not kind. Come off it, "deal with poverty"?
You clearly do not have a kid at what you must consider a "good" school such as an ivy. I have one. There are a large amount of full-need kiddos who can barely afford getting food off campus or having to buy a single extra book above their book allowance, many more poor kids than 30 yrs ago. Being around folks who are more poor than oneself, sometimes significantly more poor, is an important aspect of education and understanding fellow humanity. My kid is no where near the richest but they would never condemn and mock fellow students like you have. I grew up very poor and am now an MD, not at all poor (full pay), and I cringe hearing you make fun of poverty. My kid and their ivy friends would never do this, neither would their very good kind friends at UVA. They have perspective. Maybe try to get some. And, furthermore, there is nothing wrong with community college.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid poverty and the struggles of low income peers.

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“A” trolling but are you familiar with the families of origin for the vast majority of UVA students?

from NYT—
“University of Virginia. The median family income of a student at Virginia is $155,500, and 67% come from the top 20 percent. About 1.5% of students at Virginia came from a poor family but became a rich adult.“

[Anonymous]

These days, unfortunately, we can count on any forum that focuses on UVa to be a magnet for hungry trolls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

and some of you are really "special" people, thanks for sharing your... hmmm....somewhat unique perpspective.

It is the dominant view among parents at our high school. We jokingly call it CC-UVA.

When you try to downgrade a school but the kids that go love it so much they could care less what people say…

Yes community college is good for everyone.

NP here. I'm just reading this thread, and I find myself very curious about you. Why this level of dedicated trolling? Do you find it fun and/or do you have other motives? Can you tell us a.litle about yourself? Young or old? Parent of college students or not? What is your job? Do you have other hobbies? Do you live in the DC area?

DP here. When I was younger, many of my friends attended state schools while I went away to college. I made friends from all over the country and world. I ended up at Harvard for grad school where I met my DH. I moved to NYC and then we moved to DC for DH’s work.

I used to look down at the state school people who never left. They married one another, live close to where they grew up. College was like an extension of high school. Now we are middle aged and I envy their lives and close family relationships. They have multi generational friendships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

What?! There are top of the class kids that consider UVA a backup, yes, but if they are smart and kind they do that very quietly!
You and your kids are certainly not kind. Come off it, "deal with poverty"?
You clearly do not have a kid at what you must consider a "good" school such as an ivy. I have one. There are a large amount of full-need kiddos who can barely afford getting food off campus or having to buy a single extra book above their book allowance, many more poor kids than 30 yrs ago. Being around folks who are more poor than oneself, sometimes significantly more poor, is an important aspect of education and understanding fellow humanity. My kid is no where near the richest but they would never condemn and mock fellow students like you have. I grew up very poor and am now an MD, not at all poor (full pay), and I cringe hearing you make fun of poverty. My kid and their ivy friends would never do this, neither would their very good kind friends at UVA. They have perspective. Maybe try to get some. And, furthermore, there is nothing wrong with community college.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid poverty and the struggles of low income peers.

DP. They'd struggle less if rich peers had better attitudes. These are kids who deserve praise for their achievements. Who cares if they don't have money for off-campus extras? Then just eat in the cafeteria together or hang out at a free campus activity. Rich people also get impostor syndrome. And poverty isn't "catching" at an elite school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

What?! There are top of the class kids that consider UVA a backup, yes, but if they are smart and kind they do that very quietly!
You and your kids are certainly not kind. Come off it, "deal with poverty"?
You clearly do not have a kid at what you must consider a "good" school such as an ivy. I have one. There are a large amount of full-need kiddos who can barely afford getting food off campus or having to buy a single extra book above their book allowance, many more poor kids than 30 yrs ago. Being around folks who are more poor than oneself, sometimes significantly more poor, is an important aspect of education and understanding fellow humanity. My kid is no where near the richest but they would never condemn and mock fellow students like you have. I grew up very poor and am now an MD, not at all poor (full pay), and I cringe hearing you make fun of poverty. My kid and their ivy friends would never do this, neither would their very good kind friends at UVA. They have perspective. Maybe try to get some. And, furthermore, there is nothing wrong with community college.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid poverty and the struggles of low income peers.

DP. They'd struggle less if rich peers had better attitudes. These are kids who deserve praise for their achievements. Who cares if they don't have money for off-campus extras? Then just eat in the cafeteria together or hang out at a free campus activity. Rich people also get impostor syndrome. And poverty isn't "catching" at an elite school.

Lots of college kids think nothing of booking airfare for a weekend trip with friends or funding hobbies like sailing or skiing. This is just life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us view UVA as more of a community college type school. Sure you could get in-state tuition but you also deal with poverty among the student body and limited resources due to the state’s budget. There is no prestige and your peers are just trying to tread water.

What?! There are top of the class kids that consider UVA a backup, yes, but if they are smart and kind they do that very quietly!
You and your kids are certainly not kind. Come off it, "deal with poverty"?
You clearly do not have a kid at what you must consider a "good" school such as an ivy. I have one. There are a large amount of full-need kiddos who can barely afford getting food off campus or having to buy a single extra book above their book allowance, many more poor kids than 30 yrs ago. Being around folks who are more poor than oneself, sometimes significantly more poor, is an important aspect of education and understanding fellow humanity. My kid is no where near the richest but they would never condemn and mock fellow students like you have. I grew up very poor and am now an MD, not at all poor (full pay), and I cringe hearing you make fun of poverty. My kid and their ivy friends would never do this, neither would their very good kind friends at UVA. They have perspective. Maybe try to get some. And, furthermore, there is nothing wrong with community college.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid poverty and the struggles of low income peers.

DP. They'd struggle less if rich peers had better attitudes. These are kids who deserve praise for their achievements. Who cares if they don't have money for off-campus extras? Then just eat in the cafeteria together or hang out at a free campus activity. Rich people also get impostor syndrome. And poverty isn't "catching" at an elite school.

Lots of college kids think nothing of booking airfare for a weekend trip with friends or funding hobbies like sailing or skiing. This is just life.

I grew up poor but went to college with kids like this and picked up their habits. Friends would fly internationally to watch a sporting event or go skiing. Now I think nothing of flying to go to see a concert or to the beach for a few days. DH always says I don’t act like someone who grew up poor.