NCS - Pros and Cons

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP here (really!!), some current classes are small in the 70s but 9th grade is currently 89 girls. 27 were added this year. My impression is the school would like to graduate about 90 girls.

Also, the college acceptances I have heard about (from my daughter who is not a senior but is in US) are quite strong. They are still making decisions but I haven’t heard about lot of shut outs. College admissions are a hard thing these days and we still think NCS is worth the possibility that our daughter could have gotten into a better school from our downright horrible DCPS. She is thriving at NCS. LS was not hard, MS ramped up a bit and US can be a slog but as PPs have said, time management and executive function skills are key.

I heard only one into Tulane (ranked 73) and none into BC so far. Those are shut outs for EA and ED and EDII. I am hearing good news from the parents with good news and not good news from the parents with not good news.

To clarify several applied to the above either and/or early action, early decision and/or early decision II and as those three options the above results so please don't down play the parents and students that not be getting good news. Same for 2023. Yes lots of great schools but many many were not happy with their college placement and were very open about it to all and still are open about it. Maybe you are only talking to people with good news or people not happy don't feel comfortable sharing its with you? Not sure.

Is it possible Tulane and maybe BC are changing the percentages they accept EA/ED? Perhaps these girls will end up somewhere good in RD. Point is, maybe RD is more important these days.

Several students from Holton and other DC privates were admitted to Tulane and BC. Stop gaslighting posters that are posting facts.

Thanks. I have noticed this as well. There are some posters on here that gas light all posts that are not positive about NCS or have the posts removed.


Right now there are about 20 NCS girls who are placed for college. They are either the top-of-the-class ones or others who chose large state schools with high admissions rates.
If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. It does appear that Tulane and Boston College (who historically were happy to work with deflated NCS GPAs) are not taking girls this year.
That is quite troubling.

does every girl usually apply ED somewhere? can we assume 50ish girls were either denied ED or deferred?

No because a couple of schools have non-restrictive early. So you can have an acceptance but not commit until other decisions come out. I know there is at least 1 Princeton acceptance not reflected on the reported decisions because that student is waiting to hear from others. I think there's a Yale acceptance as well.

But yes.....a lot of deferrals.

NCS didn't used to allow that. if you got in early somewhere (unless it was like a rolling state school), you had to go there even if the college's acceptance was not binding. NCS wouldn't send your transcript anywhere else if you got in early somewhere. Has that changed? You can apply early to, say, Columbia, get in, and then try for Yale regular decision?

DP. Early action is not always restrictive.

Some schools you can apply early action but not have to commit until May. I think all Ivies except Princeton have restrictive early action/early decision meaning you must attend. I think maybe Princeton is the exception which is maybe what the poster above was talking about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

That’s where you are wrong! These girls are anything but average. They are some of the smartest most with it girls I know. Speak for yourself. I doubt you are an NCS parent or you would know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

Accurate, more precise , HIGHER gpas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

That’s where you are wrong! These girls are anything but average. They are some of the smartest most with it girls I know. Speak for yourself. I doubt you are an NCS parent or you would know this.

You will never convince a parent that their child is among the average.

Does not mean it is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

Their test scores indicate that they are far from average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

That’s where you are wrong! These girls are anything but average. They are some of the smartest most with it girls I know. Speak for yourself. I doubt you are an NCS parent or you would know this.

You will never convince a parent that their child is among the average.

Does not mean it is not true.

Stop trolling these forums please. You don’t even have a kid at NCS. Move along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

Their test scores indicate that they are far from average.

Ignore this poster. She’s either a troll or drunk or both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

No one here is talking about college counseling (at least not this string of recent comments). We are talking about the state of college admissions and the increased importance on GPA's in this TO world and the effect that has on a school with GPA's that tend to be lower than some other area schools. College counseling has no control over grading.

Let’s say teachers start giving higher grades. Minimum grade A Maximum Grade A++ and you receive your average kid gets a 4.3 GPA wish. It is hard for me to believe that this would benefit students applying to college in the long run. Maybe it helps 1-2 years tops, then the school is on the hook again for ‘poor’ college results.

The college results this year are great by the way.

Why should a school of NCS’ caliber make such a change if they do not believe it is going to help students in the long run?

Are you this much of an ass in person? Calling people’s kids “average?” Take a Valium lady and chill out. No one wants grade inflation. They just want accurate and more precise GPAs to my underrating.

That’s the issue, average isn’t an insult. It’s most people, including NCS students.

Their test scores indicate that they are far from average.

Ignore this poster. She’s either a troll or drunk or both.

Was referring to the poster above this!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP here (really!!), some current classes are small in the 70s but 9th grade is currently 89 girls. 27 were added this year. My impression is the school would like to graduate about 90 girls.

Also, the college acceptances I have heard about (from my daughter who is not a senior but is in US) are quite strong. They are still making decisions but I haven’t heard about lot of shut outs. College admissions are a hard thing these days and we still think NCS is worth the possibility that our daughter could have gotten into a better school from our downright horrible DCPS. She is thriving at NCS. LS was not hard, MS ramped up a bit and US can be a slog but as PPs have said, time management and executive function skills are key.

I heard only one into Tulane (ranked 73) and none into BC so far. Those are shut outs for EA and ED and EDII. I am hearing good news from the parents with good news and not good news from the parents with not good news.

To clarify several applied to the above either and/or early action, early decision and/or early decision II and as those three options the above results so please don't down play the parents and students that not be getting good news. Same for 2023. Yes lots of great schools but many many were not happy with their college placement and were very open about it to all and still are open about it. Maybe you are only talking to people with good news or people not happy don't feel comfortable sharing its with you? Not sure.

Is it possible Tulane and maybe BC are changing the percentages they accept EA/ED? Perhaps these girls will end up somewhere good in RD. Point is, maybe RD is more important these days.

Several students from Holton and other DC privates were admitted to Tulane and BC. Stop gaslighting posters that are posting facts.

Thanks. I have noticed this as well. There are some posters on here that gas light all posts that are not positive about NCS or have the posts removed.


Right now there are about 20 NCS girls who are placed for college. They are either the top-of-the-class ones or others who chose large state schools with high admissions rates.
If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. It does appear that Tulane and Boston College (who historically were happy to work with deflated NCS GPAs) are not taking girls this year.
That is quite troubling.

does every girl usually apply ED somewhere? can we assume 50ish girls were either denied ED or deferred?

No because a couple of schools have non-restrictive early. So you can have an acceptance but not commit until other decisions come out. I know there is at least 1 Princeton acceptance not reflected on the reported decisions because that student is waiting to hear from others. I think there's a Yale acceptance as well.

But yes.....a lot of deferrals.

NCS didn't used to allow that. if you got in early somewhere (unless it was like a rolling state school), you had to go there even if the college's acceptance was not binding. NCS wouldn't send your transcript anywhere else if you got in early somewhere. Has that changed? You can apply early to, say, Columbia, get in, and then try for Yale regular decision?

DP. Early action is not always restrictive.

Some schools you can apply early action but not have to commit until May. I think all Ivies except Princeton have restrictive early action/early decision meaning you must attend. I think maybe Princeton is the exception which is maybe what the poster above was talking about?

No Princeton is not the only restrictive early action school. Harvard, Yale and Stanford are as well so you can be admitted in December but have until May to commit. This allows students to apply regular decision to any school they choose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

Either you are a troll or a one of the two parents who are happy with their kids GPAs and you are trying to prevent anything from changing in fear it will knock your kid out of the top spots.

Regardless your posts are rude and uncalled for and over the top.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here (really!!), some current classes are small in the 70s but 9th grade is currently 89 girls. 27 were added this year. My impression is the school would like to graduate about 90 girls.

Also, the college acceptances I have heard about (from my daughter who is not a senior but is in US) are quite strong. They are still making decisions but I haven’t heard about lot of shut outs. College admissions are a hard thing these days and we still think NCS is worth the possibility that our daughter could have gotten into a better school from our downright horrible DCPS. She is thriving at NCS. LS was not hard, MS ramped up a bit and US can be a slog but as PPs have said, time management and executive function skills are key.

I heard only one into Tulane (ranked 73) and none into BC so far. Those are shut outs for EA and ED and EDII. I am hearing good news from the parents with good news and not good news from the parents with not good news.

To clarify several applied to the above either and/or early action, early decision and/or early decision II and as those three options the above results so please don't down play the parents and students that not be getting good news. Same for 2023. Yes lots of great schools but many many were not happy with their college placement and were very open about it to all and still are open about it. Maybe you are only talking to people with good news or people not happy don't feel comfortable sharing its with you? Not sure.

Is it possible Tulane and maybe BC are changing the percentages they accept EA/ED? Perhaps these girls will end up somewhere good in RD. Point is, maybe RD is more important these days.

Several students from Holton and other DC privates were admitted to Tulane and BC. Stop gaslighting posters that are posting facts.

Thanks. I have noticed this as well. There are some posters on here that gas light all posts that are not positive about NCS or have the posts removed.


Right now there are about 20 NCS girls who are placed for college. They are either the top-of-the-class ones or others who chose large state schools with high admissions rates.
If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. It does appear that Tulane and Boston College (who historically were happy to work with deflated NCS GPAs) are not taking girls this year.
That is quite troubling.

does every girl usually apply ED somewhere? can we assume 50ish girls were either denied ED or deferred?

No because a couple of schools have non-restrictive early. So you can have an acceptance but not commit until other decisions come out. I know there is at least 1 Princeton acceptance not reflected on the reported decisions because that student is waiting to hear from others. I think there's a Yale acceptance as well.

But yes.....a lot of deferrals.

NCS didn't used to allow that. if you got in early somewhere (unless it was like a rolling state school), you had to go there even if the college's acceptance was not binding. NCS wouldn't send your transcript anywhere else if you got in early somewhere. Has that changed? You can apply early to, say, Columbia, get in, and then try for Yale regular decision?

DP. Early action is not always restrictive.

Some schools you can apply early action but not have to commit until May. I think all Ivies except Princeton have restrictive early action/early decision meaning you must attend. I think maybe Princeton is the exception which is maybe what the poster above was talking about?

No Princeton is not the only restrictive early action school. Harvard, Yale and Stanford are as well so you can be admitted in December but have until May to commit. This allows students to apply regular decision to any school they choose.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Can we get back to the productive conversation at hand?
those who are in the senior class, how are kids who are below the top 10% doing? The Instagram represents the superstar, 3.9+ kids. The ones who were successful in REA at the Ivies and other top 10 schools.
What about the other 70 girls? By my count (those on Instagram and those I know who are confirmed at a university but have not posted) there are about 20 girls who know where they are attending next year.
Holton's class is almost the same size and yet they have twice as many girls placed.
Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the productive conversation at hand?
those who are in the senior class, how are kids who are below the top 10% doing? The Instagram represents the superstar, 3.9+ kids. The ones who were successful in REA at the Ivies and other top 10 schools.
What about the other 70 girls? By my count (those on Instagram and those I know who are confirmed at a university but have not posted) there are about 20 girls who know where they are attending next year.
Holton's class is almost the same size and yet they have twice as many girls placed.
Thoughts?

I am not a senior parent but what I am hearing is that many are waiting to see what their options are in regular decision then make decisions then. They may not want to take the school or schools that got in for early action until seeing what other options they get in. Hopefully they do well!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current generation of parents wants A-level grades and admittance to T30 schools for average effort and mediocre performance. They throw tantrums and spread rumors about other kids and their families to get a leg up. It’s embarrassing that people act this way, and that society doesn’t punish behavior like this anymore. Can we bring back social consequences for being a jerk?

Sorry, charlie/charlene didn’t get in. The school can change some things yes, but probably also your child wasn’t a good fit.

NCS college counseling is fine.

Either you are a troll or a one of the two parents who are happy with their kids GPAs and you are trying to prevent anything from changing in fear it will knock your kid out of the top spots.

Regardless your posts are rude and uncalled for and over the top.

Any change that gets made is likely going to have to change again once we get through the post Covid bump fully.
There may be some less than ideal years for some middle of the road students, but maintaining consistency with grading and transcript practices is worth consideration.