Will DC get rescinded?

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to work the system won't be a good look and the question is, is your kid really ready for college? It truly sounds like he isn't.

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As someone who went to boarding school- your kid must have done something really bad to be kicked out senior year

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I think there are a variety of reasons they could have asked the kid to leave , or strongly suggested the family withdraw, without it being horrific what the kid did. He could have had multiple offenses of something that in the school code of conduct requires the student to leave after strike three, does not mean he was harming others or seeking drugs or something.
The facts are this: they withdrew the kid. That is what the papers show. That is what the colleges would see. OP, ask an education lawyer or very experienced college consultant what they think you need or don’t need to do. People here don’t know.

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Who cares why? What a bunch of ninnies trying to speculate and rub it in OP's face. She came here for help and advice and you did so well, being DCUM banshees as usual.

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Many boarding schools, including my kid’s school, are one strike, regardless of high school year. The transgressions can be drinking, etc-typically suspensions in day schools.

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OP, you obviously have money. Hire a private college counselor ASAP and get their advice. Most seniors have already turned in their applications so plenty should have availability.

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No, you gotta try harder

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Anonymous wrote:Probably. You’d obviously need to disclose this.

Probably as in he will probably get rescinded? Should they disclose this to schools they have already heard back from, or to all the schools they have yet to hear from? I thought that all the online school would need to do is send his transcript at the end of the school year after they have heard back from all schools, at what point would they indicate rescindment?

When they get the transcript and figure out your kid was kicked out of the school he applied from midyear. Realize you’ll have to send both official transcripts. They are going to see he left suddenly and without a plan and had no school for a while and figure out that something went very wrong. At best, you are going to get tough questions because it is highly unusual for a kid to leave a school under the circumstances you describe midway through senior year. Without. And, of course, he was admitted EA with the expectation that he would graduate from the school he applied from and that the class load, ECs, grades etc he applied with would not change much before graduation.

A senior year D or F is bad. Behavior that gets you de facto expelled midway through senior year from a boarding school is much worse because it goes to your kids character. A kid who is unwelcome at his prior HS may not be a kid a college wants on their campus.

You need to inform RD schools of the change in circumstances now. Not doing so and hoping they won’t notice (they will) is an honesty/integrity issue. And it sounds like your kid already has a huge black mark in that area. Letting colleges believe he is still ant the boarding school and in good standing when they make RD decisions is not going to go over well. I mean, neither is the not expulsion expulsion. But, if it looks like he’s trying to hide it, it is going to make any character questions much worse.

Basically, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

And you may as well suck it up and disclose to EA admittances now. If they are going to rescind, it’s better to know now, when you have time to get a Plan B in place than in May or June.

This is an area where I would walk through your response and disclosure with a college counselor and develop a plan that minimizes the damage. But, hiding it, submitting the online transcript and kinda hoping colleges don’t catch on is not a good plan. They will. And it will be a lot worse for your kid if he was asked to leave AND then lies by omission. That’s a pattern of character issues, rather than a one off. I’m assuming you have to screw up badly to be asked to leave midway through senior year without even being allowed to develop a transition plan. If your kid committed a crime, that definitely must be disclosed.

It’s a good life lesson. Your kid might not like it, bit FAFO is real and things like community college to UVA/WM etc paths and gap years exist for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the school he left is trying to cover for him so you can spin it as voluntary. I think probably he’ll be ok with the EA schools but I would consult the guidance counselor.

This. Accept an EA and send in a deposit ASAP. It's a lot harder to resend when they have accepted payment especially if you are abroad in the EU and able to rely on their consumer protections.

American colleges are not subject to EU Regulations. Come on man.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably. You’d obviously need to disclose this.

Probably as in he will probably get rescinded? Should they disclose this to schools they have already heard back from, or to all the schools they have yet to hear from? I thought that all the online school would need to do is send his transcript at the end of the school year after they have heard back from all schools, at what point would they indicate rescindment?

Any changes is enrollment need to be reported to all schools applied to, whether the school has issued a decision yet or not. The impact this may have on any decisions, both those already made and those pending, is something no one here can tell you for sure.

Does it really say that somewhere? That you need to report a change in enrollment? I thought colleges just needed proof of graduation so a final transcript. I wouldn’t offer information unless asked. And in this case I’d be tempted to lie and say a medical issue made them return home and finish online. Or maybe a personal issue.

I see where you kid got his moral compass from. NO, you can’t lie. That’s a great way to make a bad situation worse.

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Anonymous wrote:It probably depends a lot on how selective the accepted schools are but yeah, you need to just tell them all. You don’t have to say the incident but you have to say whatever is true (child withdrew and enrolled in whatever online school or blah blah).

I mean they got kicked out of school, isn’t it appropriate that would affect their college?

This.
OP is intentionally not telling us what the "incident" is, but even though it happened off campus, his boarding school felt it was something that could reflect badly on them and made him leave. Couldn't it also reflect badly on a college? Is this "incident" something that he might do again?

What does this have to do with OP’s question, objectively speaking?

A college is going to be a lot more concerned if OP’s kid raped someone, was dealing drugs or something similarly serious than if her broke curfew one to many times or got caught smoking pot or using a fake ID to buy beer. It does matter what OP’s kid did. If Op won’t say, that’s not a good sign.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was enrolled in a school but was abruptly let go (boarding school) due to an incident outside of school that he was involved in. The school asked us nicely to withdraw DC, so that it would look as if his termination would look voluntary instead of being “kicked out”. We live abroad and thus can not send DC to a public school in the states, and thus they will enroll in an online school for the second semester. However this happened early January and because of the abrupt nature he will have missed a month before DC resumes their academics next week. They have been accepted to several schools EA already, and obviously is waiting on some schools during the regular round. Will DC’s: change in schools mid year/ enrollment in an online school/ taking slightly different courses due to availability/ 1 month gap in education affect his admissions and potential future acceptances?

Yes. That is unfortunate timing.

Natural consequences.

This. As kids get older, parents stop imposing consequences and you get the consequences life throws at you. OP’s kid is about to discover this.

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OP, you've already gotten a lot of advice so I'll just add one other aspect here: Your DC had better hope that none of the other students involved in the incident (or just students at the school who weren't involved) have posted about it on social media, shared any names, shared any photos, named the school, complained about being asked to "withdraw" if they were asked, etc.

Colleges increasingly look at students' social media accounts. Even if your own DC has no accounts or didn't post on ones he does have, well, there is always the chance, however slim it seems, that social media posts about an incident serious enough to get students expelled-but-not-expelled could end up on colleges' radar somehow. Some here will scoff, I know!, but you need to consider this aspect. If this was about vaping (earlier example someone gave) that's less of an issue but if this involved, say, vandalism or a public disturbance or whatever--that could end up being talked about online. Sure, it's not very likely these EA colleges which have already said yes will go look at social media. But it's amazing, how kids and parents don't realize what seeps online.

Interesting point. Colleges don't have time to look at *everyone's* socia media presence. But if something like this came up with a vague description of circumstances, I bet they would.

Another point. If OP’s kid got into a college that another kid who knows about the incident did not, expect that kid to inform the college about what happened. You listening Sidwell?

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Anonymous wrote:Former school asked you to withdraw the student and you went along with it. Morally, they owe you something for being so easy. You might be able to get them to do more for you - for example helping you understand the situation your son is in.
They can help you understand the student handbooks and contracts and coach you and your son on how to approach disclosure and conversations with possible next schools. If they don't want to do that, talk to an educational consultant or lawyer (probably privately, without telling your old school) so you can find out what your rights and obligations are.

What planet are you on?

The school was the one who was "easy" by allowing the student to save face and "withdrawn" instead of being kicked out. The school owes OP's kid nothing.

I’m from the real life planet. A lot of families would have kicked up a bigger fuss.

In which case, the kids expulsion becomes impossible to spin or hide and the school has zero incentive not to put it on his transcript.

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If it’s weed or alcohol, it likely won’t be an issue (though it’s possible kid will need to supply a letter/report from a professional saying that there’s no substance abuse disorder?).

If it’s sexual assault, other violence, or racism, that’s a problem.

Be aware that many boarding school counselors speak frequently with AOs. The counselor likely can’t share what happened, but they can proactively say that a kid is no longer enrolled. So be proactive, and have a plan.

I don’t recommend lying.