The allure of Duke?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

University of Spoiled Children.

[Anonymous]

I can't believe someone on here compared Duke favorably to Harvard and Yale because the kids at Harvard and Yale are "brand whores."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe someone on here compared Duke favorably to Harvard and Yale because the kids at Harvard and Yale are "brand whores."

Right, as if Duke kids aren’t brand whores. News flash, if you’re going for T10 you’re to some extent a brand whore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm - great school, great weather, great basketball, great quality of life.

+1 it seems pretty clear to me

over 90K a year. Going in-state

Oh sh*t. For real??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm - great school, great weather, great basketball, great quality of life.

+1 it seems pretty clear to me

over 90K a year. Going in-state

Oh sh*t. For real??

Yup. Google Cost of Attendance Duke. Be sure to add up all of the categories and fees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

Ha! No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For students needing FA, Duke isn’t nearly as generous as most if not all of the schools ranked higher. Definitely a more “wealthy” feel at Duke vs other ivies, Stanford, MIT

This is objectively not true, even if you think Duke has a different feel. You don't think Princeton also has a wealthy feel?

Duke definitely has a different feel. Sure they all have their share of very wealthy students but HYPSM enroll noticeably more lower income students/pell grant eligible students. Princeton offers a lot of support (financial and otherwise) for lower income / first gen students.
Duke is one of the least economically diverse colleges in the US.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/07/magazine/duke-economic-diversity.html#

[Anonymous]

My theory is that Duke is popular in part because while it is extremely difficult to get into, it still does offer some possibility of admission to a strong high-stat kid from an overrepreseted area, or at least more than the REA crowd. ED is a boost. Plus, Southern schools with their traditional feel are hot right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

LOL completely wrong on both.
They may choose UNC or UCLA for financial reasons with in-state tuitions.
No one in their right mind would choose UNC over Duke otherwise.

USC is highly academic especially in the fields of Engineering, CS, Business, etc. not to mention the world best School of Cinematic Arts.
Hence USC grads are highly regarded in the industries. Industries definitely wouldn't like spoiled kids.
There are spoiled kids in every prestigious schools. USC is full of bright smart intelligent and independent kids.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
USC #1, UCLA #8

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
USC #2, UCLA #9

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
USC #10, UCLA #18

I think the rumor was created by rejects and UCLA parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

LOL completely wrong on both.
They may choose UNC or UCLA for financial reasons with in-state tuitions.
No one in their right mind would choose UNC over Duke otherwise.

USC is highly academic especially in the fields of Engineering, CS, Business, etc. not to mention the world best School of Cinematic Arts.
Hence USC grads are highly regarded in the industries. Industries definitely wouldn't like spoiled kids.
There are spoiled kids in every prestigious schools. USC is full of bright smart intelligent and independent kids.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
USC #1, UCLA #8

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
USC #2, UCLA #9

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
USC #10, UCLA #18

I think the rumor was created by rejects and UCLA parents.

No. Impartial observer residents agree UCLA is an amazing option. Just consider their locations. UCLA is surrounded by Beverly Hills. It's absolutely stunning. UCS is surrounded by ghettos. Just google number of USC students who were murdered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For students needing FA, Duke isn’t nearly as generous as most if not all of the schools ranked higher. Definitely a more “wealthy” feel at Duke vs other ivies, Stanford, MIT

This is objectively not true, even if you think Duke has a different feel. You don't think Princeton also has a wealthy feel?

Duke definitely has a different feel. Sure they all have their share of very wealthy students but HYPSM enroll noticeably more lower income students/pell grant eligible students. Princeton offers a lot of support (financial and otherwise) for lower income / first gen students.
Duke is one of the least economically diverse colleges in the US.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/07/magazine/duke-economic-diversity.html#

Duke actually enrolled 17% pell grant students for class of 2027, which is in line with Princeton

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

LOL completely wrong on both.
They may choose UNC or UCLA for financial reasons with in-state tuitions.
No one in their right mind would choose UNC over Duke otherwise.

USC is highly academic especially in the fields of Engineering, CS, Business, etc. not to mention the world best School of Cinematic Arts.
Hence USC grads are highly regarded in the industries. Industries definitely wouldn't like spoiled kids.
There are spoiled kids in every prestigious schools. USC is full of bright smart intelligent and independent kids.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
USC #1, UCLA #8

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
USC #2, UCLA #9

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
USC #10, UCLA #18

I think the rumor was created by rejects and UCLA parents.

No. Impartial observer residents agree UCLA is an amazing option. Just consider their locations. UCLA is surrounded by Beverly Hills. It's absolutely stunning. UCS is surrounded by ghettos. Just google number of USC students who were murdered.

So sounds like UCLA kids are the spoiled ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke seems like it would be a great mix of fun and strong academic.

The Ivies of 2023 are super unappealing to my kids: a mix of DEI admits and super intense gunner kids who founded 17 non-profits in high school or put up with their parents doing the same (yuck).
No thanks. My kids have no interest (less than none, really) although my senior has the stats to enter the "Ivy lottery."

Duke seems the the best chance to have the prestige and academics but also the big, fun school with at least some "normal kids."

In SoCal, USC is never seen as a school with more "prestige and academics.". It's seen as the [/b]University of [b]Spoiled Children.
It's for kids who couldn't get into UCLA - the same way Duke is seen as a school for those who couldn't get into the U of NC - Chapel Hill.

LOL completely wrong on both.
They may choose UNC or UCLA for financial reasons with in-state tuitions.
No one in their right mind would choose UNC over Duke otherwise.

USC is highly academic especially in the fields of Engineering, CS, Business, etc. not to mention the world best School of Cinematic Arts.
Hence USC grads are highly regarded in the industries. Industries definitely wouldn't like spoiled kids.
There are spoiled kids in every prestigious schools. USC is full of bright smart intelligent and independent kids.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
USC #1, UCLA #8

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
USC #2, UCLA #9

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
USC #10, UCLA #18

I think the rumor was created by rejects and UCLA parents.

No. Impartial observer residents agree UCLA is an amazing option. Just consider their locations. UCLA is surrounded by Beverly Hills. It's absolutely stunning. UCS is surrounded by ghettos. Just google number of USC students who were murdered.

So sounds like UCLA kids are the spoiled ones

Oh yes, they live to see another day after suffering through 4 years of living next to the rich and famous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For students needing FA, Duke isn’t nearly as generous as most if not all of the schools ranked higher. Definitely a more “wealthy” feel at Duke vs other ivies, Stanford, MIT

This is objectively not true, even if you think Duke has a different feel. You don't think Princeton also has a wealthy feel?

Duke definitely has a different feel. Sure they all have their share of very wealthy students but HYPSM enroll noticeably more lower income students/pell grant eligible students. Princeton offers a lot of support (financial and otherwise) for lower income / first gen students.
Duke is one of the least economically diverse colleges in the US.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/07/magazine/duke-economic-diversity.html#

Duke actually enrolled 17% pell grant students for class of 2027, which is in line with Princeton

That’s for one class. And probably the first and only class they were above 12-15% Let’s see if that trend continues. Princeton and Yale have 22% of students eligible for pell grant for class of 2027. Harvard was 19%.

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/09/06/class-2027-arrives-midst-four-year-undergraduate-expansion#:~:text=The%20Class%20of%202027%20includes,eligible%20for%20federal%20Pell%20Grants.

[Anonymous]

And at Duke only 52% of undergrads receive need based financial aid. At Princeton its 62%