Atheism is losing popularity because it won’t own it’s own sins

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh. You view atheism as a belief system, and you want to compare it to your own belief system. You think it's a battle between belief systems for subscribers. Like people choose between Christianity and atheism the way they choose between Netflix and Hulu.

No.

It's more like Christianity is Netflix, Hulu is Islam, Max is Judaism, the Criterion Collection is Buddhism. And atheism is throwing out your TV.

Of course faith has an appeal, even to those who have lived without it. Especially to those who have lived without it. Religion also offers community and people crave that. But religions themselves don't always work within a person's life. It is normal for people to lose faith but then become curious about it again. It's easy to be a skeptic at 22, and it's easier to be a believer at 62.

I think Jews get it right because they support people in losing their faith within the religion. You can tell your own rabbi "I don't believe," and it's fine, you're still Jewish and nothing changes. The religion is about more than just faith, which can be hard to sustain.

Anyway, you are fighting over something that just doesn't work that way. No one is converting to atheism. They just lose faith.

It's kind of tiresome. When one thread about athiesm dies down, another one pops up. It seems like someone is just begging for someone to argue with them. I have no idea if some are from the same poster or not, but holy crap get over it. Athiests are not coming after your Christian lifestyle. A lot (if not most) really don't give a damn.

Maybe it's someone who is losing their faith and is struggling with it. It's tough to learn that everything you've believed for decades is BS.

No, my faith has remained stable, and grows even in times of hardship and sadness on earth because I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I am grateful for the life He has given to me. No one can be taught to have a relationship with God. It’s something you come to on a personal level.

People are taught religion, but religion is not what people should center their life on-it’s their personal belief in Christ that brings joy and peace. Religion doesn’t always bring peace. God does.

I wonder what He thinks about You obsessing over atheism. On a Sunday morning.

He loves me- and you.

Just like all of other supernatural forces who love me.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethics and morals and the philosophies driving them have been the subject of thinkers since before the birth of Christ. See Socrates and virtue ethics. Some of you act like humans had no sense of right and wrong before Christianity.

The world before Christ was a horror show.

And the world since is.... what?

Christians trying to force their beliefs on others. Like right now in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethics and morals and the philosophies driving them have been the subject of thinkers since before the birth of Christ. See Socrates and virtue ethics. Some of you act like humans had no sense of right and wrong before Christianity.

The world before Christ was a horror show.

And the world since is.... what?

Christians trying to force their beliefs on others. Like right now in the US.

Atheists in China and Russia mandated atheism; China still does.

You ignore that, why?

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh. You view atheism as a belief system, and you want to compare it to your own belief system. You think it's a battle between belief systems for subscribers. Like people choose between Christianity and atheism the way they choose between Netflix and Hulu.

No.

It's more like Christianity is Netflix, Hulu is Islam, Max is Judaism, the Criterion Collection is Buddhism. And atheism is throwing out your TV.

Of course faith has an appeal, even to those who have lived without it. Especially to those who have lived without it. Religion also offers community and people crave that. But religions themselves don't always work within a person's life. It is normal for people to lose faith but then become curious about it again. It's easy to be a skeptic at 22, and it's easier to be a believer at 62.

I think Jews get it right because they support people in losing their faith within the religion. You can tell your own rabbi "I don't believe," and it's fine, you're still Jewish and nothing changes. The religion is about more than just faith, which can be hard to sustain.

Anyway, you are fighting over something that just doesn't work that way. No one is converting to atheism. They just lose faith.

It's kind of tiresome. When one thread about athiesm dies down, another one pops up. It seems like someone is just begging for someone to argue with them. I have no idea if some are from the same poster or not, but holy crap get over it. Athiests are not coming after your Christian lifestyle. A lot (if not most) really don't give a damn.

Maybe it's someone who is losing their faith and is struggling with it. It's tough to learn that everything you've believed for decades is BS.

No, my faith has remained stable, and grows even in times of hardship and sadness on earth because I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I am grateful for the life He has given to me. No one can be taught to have a relationship with God. It’s something you come to on a personal level.

People are taught religion, but religion is not what people should center their life on-it’s their personal belief in Christ that brings joy and peace. Religion doesn’t always bring peace. God does.

I wonder what He thinks about You obsessing over atheism. On a Sunday morning.

He loves me- and you.

Just like all of other supernatural forces who love me.

What other God claims to love all humanity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im a no. 2 atheist. For myself, I do not believe in God. My husband is more agnostic. It’s not about whether religion has done good in society, but belief. Right now, it’s killing thousands in Gaza and Israel.

Tribalism under the banner of religion is killing thousands in Gaza and Israel.

[Anonymous]

Church attendance has been plummeting in the US—tend to your own house. Don’t worry about atheism. We’re doing fine, and we don’t proselytize, so we don’t care about being “popular.”

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Anonymous wrote:Ethics and morals and the philosophies driving them have been the subject of thinkers since before the birth of Christ. See Socrates and virtue ethics. Some of you act like humans had no sense of right and wrong before Christianity.

The world before Christ was a horror show.

And the world since is.... what?

Christians trying to force their beliefs on others. Like right now in the US.

Atheists in China and Russia mandated atheism; China still does.

You ignore that, why?

DP. Which is Brierly's point--atheists don't acknowledge their own wrongdoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Church attendance has been plummeting in the US—tend to your own house. Don’t worry about atheism. We’re doing fine, and we don’t proselytize, so we don’t care about being “popular.”

This is so wrong. Explain DCUM's Angry Atheist who's on here 24/7.

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Anonymous wrote:Im a no. 2 atheist. For myself, I do not believe in God. My husband is more agnostic. It’s not about whether religion has done good in society, but belief. Right now, it’s killing thousands in Gaza and Israel.

Tribalism under the banner of religion is killing thousands in Gaza and Israel.

Yes, and atheists killed 100 million of their OWN PEOPLE.

War is terrible and I strongly disagree with what is happening in the ME.

I don’t think there is a single person who would disagree with the statement you made.

State mandated atheism is a peculiar-horrifyingly peculiar creature- because the atheists that are in power kill their own people.

They aren’t being tribal at all- they actually despise their own citizens enough to torture and kill them by the millions.

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Anonymous wrote:So OP wakes up on a Sunday morning and gives serious thought to atheism. Interesting.

Actually saw information about the podcast, the podcast is about Christians and atheists discussing their pov.

So OP wakes up on a Sunday morning and chooses a podcast about atheism out of all of the various religion podcasts out there. Then proceeds to think about it and post on DCUM. A lot of energy spent on atheism on a Sunday morning. Interesting.

I'm not OP and I don't listen to that podcast. But I do know a little about it, and Brierly (sp?) who runs/moderates it is a Christian. Also it covers a lot of ground, not just atheism. So it's not like OP woke up and thought she'd dig out something about you, no, it's not that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Church attendance has been plummeting in the US—tend to your own house. Don’t worry about atheism. We’re doing fine, and we don’t proselytize, so we don’t care about being “popular.”

No kidding. You even kill your own citizens, we get that you aren’t out to win any popularity contests.

Also- who needs to proselytizing when atheist leaders mandate atheism and kill everyone who disagrees? And even some who aren’t capable of agreeing! Or agree, but not in the right way?

Church can be great , but Jesus is the real truth.

[Anonymous]

Let's be honest here, another reason the New Atheists went out of vogue is that Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris are (were in Hitchens' case) kinda d!cks. Harris hung out with Charles Murray and is pretty much an Islamophobe. Hitchens was a great writer early in his career but ended up a loudmouth who sensationalized poorly researched material.Dawkins is just pretty mean. And then we have DCUM's Angry Atheist is a troll and a d!ck.

None of these people make atheism look appealing, either by argument or by their example of what it might look like to lead a secular life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Church attendance has been plummeting in the US—tend to your own house. Don’t worry about atheism. We’re doing fine, and we don’t proselytize, so we don’t care about being “popular.”

No kidding. You even kill your own citizens, we get that you aren’t out to win any popularity contests.

Also- who needs to proselytizing when atheist leaders mandate atheism and kill everyone who disagrees? And even some who aren’t capable of agreeing! Or agree, but not in the right way?

Church can be great , but Jesus is the real truth.

Believe what you want, just shut the freak up about it. No one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest here, another reason the New Atheists went out of vogue is that Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris are (were in Hitchens' case) kinda d!cks. Harris hung out with Charles Murray and is pretty much an Islamophobe. Hitchens was a great writer early in his career but ended up a loudmouth who sensationalized poorly researched material.Dawkins is just pretty mean. And then we have DCUM's Angry Atheist is a troll and a d!ck.

None of these people make atheism look appealing, either by argument or by their example of what it might look like to lead a secular life.

+1 that’s what he says- not that there are no atheists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Church attendance has been plummeting in the US—tend to your own house. Don’t worry about atheism. We’re doing fine, and we don’t proselytize, so we don’t care about being “popular.”

No kidding. You even kill your own citizens, we get that you aren’t out to win any popularity contests.

Also- who needs to proselytizing when atheist leaders mandate atheism and kill everyone who disagrees? And even some who aren’t capable of agreeing! Or agree, but not in the right way?

Church can be great , but Jesus is the real truth.

Believe what you want, just shut the freak up about it. No one cares.

1. You definitely care
2. You definitely want me to shut up (freak is standing in for a much more crude and gross four letter word-are those the morals and ethics you tout?)
3. You are my brother or sister and I love you. No one can love God and not love his brother or sister who stands before him.