Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins iced legacy admissions several years ago. That is the larger part of the equation.

Alumni here. Still a little salty about that!

I'm okay with that because I didn't want my kids to go there anyway

Husband was poor/first Gen. He is livid that now are kid --being a white legacy (with a 4.0/4.6, 35 ACT, and all kinds of extracurriculars/awards) is being touted by Daniels as the exact type of student they do NOT want.

We have had dinners with the alumni outreach and they said that alumni all over the US are livid. Donations are no longer being made.

With Bloomberg’s donations, they don’t need your money.

They are going to fall in the ranks when merit is no longer the standard, just like Thomas Jefferson HS.

Those annual rankings don't effect the science being done at the Applied Physics Lab, the medicine at hospital system, the diplomats and bankers being trained at SAIS, etc. Are you still in high school yourself?

It is affecting the current med students according to my relative that works at JHU.

Oh boy.... anecdotes from relatives.

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In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a graduate student at Hopkins in biology and didn't notice any of the cut throat behaviors. I did catch a kid cheating once.

My husband was an undergrad and said the pre-med kids used to change the test location--tell others time/location changed, etc. This was the 90s- pre-Internet.

I was also an undergrad at Hopkins and think this is bs. Tests were administered the same place as where classes took place.

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Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.

I think the article is slightly off, 21 percent Caucasian for class of 2026 per Hopkins website. The Asian enrollment is 26 percent. International, which is likely mostly a combination of those two groups, is 14 percent.

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90s grad also. I expect there are a lot of us here.

Kids did some underhanded things. A word to the wise: Any classmate offering free advice in the Hut after midnight is to be avoided.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not racist to say that when a country is 75% Caucasian, a university that accepts only 16% Caucasian is discriminating based on race.

So TJ (fairfax County Magnet school) as discriminating against whites since their admissions were/are majority Asian?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.

I think the article is slightly off, 21 percent Caucasian for class of 2026 per Hopkins website. The Asian enrollment is 26 percent. International, which is likely mostly a combination of those two groups, is 14 percent.

That is still unproportionable/very low/not representative of US population statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not racist to say that when a country is 75% Caucasian, a university that accepts only 16% Caucasian is discriminating based on race.

So TJ (fairfax County Magnet school) as discriminating against whites since their admissions were/are majority Asian?

No. Merit based, just like JHU. The other race categories at JHU, not so much. They don't match demographics.

Asians won the lawsuit- Harvard. Caucasians won the lawsuit -UNC.

Nobody is arguing merit. If you take only 16% of a population that is 75% in this country--some are being discriminated solely on race.

These are facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was a graduate student at Hopkins in biology and didn't notice any of the cut throat behaviors. I did catch a kid cheating once.

My husband was an undergrad and said the pre-med kids used to change the test location--tell others time/location changed, etc. This was the 90s- pre-Internet.

I was also an undergrad at Hopkins and think this is bs. Tests were administered the same place as where classes took place.

There were definitely kids who did this, especially with regards to exam times. Class of '96 here. Some kids were ruthless.
(and btw--you don't get to re-write my personal experience just because you didn't experience it!)

I really hope the culture has changed but I have a hard time believing that the pre-meds of Hopkins are kinder or more laid-back in 2023.

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Maybe this was a stipulation for Bloomberg’s massive donation. He came from a humble upbringing and majored in Electrical Engineering. He has given over a billion and is worth over eighty billion. He plans to turn his company to his foundation at some point, similar to the Patagonia foundation. If the school shows they excel at diversity and social mobility, he may be inclined to give more.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not racist to say that when a country is 75% Caucasian, a university that accepts only 16% Caucasian is discriminating based on race.

So TJ (fairfax County Magnet school) as discriminating against whites since their admissions were/are majority Asian?

Wondering this myself. Seems to be problematic to have more blacks/Hispanics that their representation in population but not more Asians, according to dcum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was a graduate student at Hopkins in biology and didn't notice any of the cut throat behaviors. I did catch a kid cheating once.

My husband was an undergrad and said the pre-med kids used to change the test location--tell others time/location changed, etc. This was the 90s- pre-Internet.

I was also an undergrad at Hopkins and think this is bs. Tests were administered the same place as where classes took place.

There were definitely kids who did this, especially with regards to exam times. Class of '96 here. Some kids were ruthless.
(and btw--you don't get to re-write my personal experience just because you didn't experience it!)

I really hope the culture has changed but I have a hard time believing that the pre-meds of Hopkins are kinder or more laid-back in 2023.

+1 Class of '92

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was a graduate student at Hopkins in biology and didn't notice any of the cut throat behaviors. I did catch a kid cheating once.

My husband was an undergrad and said the pre-med kids used to change the test location--tell others time/location changed, etc. This was the 90s- pre-Internet.

I was also an undergrad at Hopkins and think this is bs. Tests were administered the same place as where classes took place.

There were definitely kids who did this, especially with regards to exam times. Class of '96 here. Some kids were ruthless.
(and btw--you don't get to re-write my personal experience just because you didn't experience it!)

I really hope the culture has changed but I have a hard time believing that the pre-meds of Hopkins are kinder or more laid-back in 2023.

Two posts ago, it was someone relaying their spouse’s experience. So I am not the one doing the rewriting.

And your complaint still makes no sense, tests would either be at normal class time or on the standard exam schedule, which has exactly one time for morning exams and another for afternoon, same times every day.

If you couldn’t keep track of exam times, perhaps you were a dumb bunny out of their league at Hopkins, nursing a grudge decades later.

[Anonymous]

It's pretty funny coming from Bloomberg:

Bloomberg supported a long-standing policy of stop-and-frisk, police searching people on the streets, especially in minority neighborhoods.

MIKE BLOOMBERG: Ninety-five percent of your murders and murderers and murder victims fit one MO. You can just take the description, Xerox it and pass it out to all the cops. They are male minorities 15 to 25. That's true in New York. That's true in virtually every city. And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed.

Perhaps what he is doing at Hopkins he's cleaning his record for future political campaign, or making amends.

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I wonder what percentage of the URM kids also are white. There's a lot of UMC kids who have a black and white parent or white looking Grandma from Argentina and look very white, but check the Hispanic box.