Why do people go to another state’s public university?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t get into UVA or W &M but wanted an equally high-achieving student body.

THIS. Thank you. Spare me the “we want the out of state experience.” You get into one of these in state schools and you jump on them.

It ended up being cheaper though so I wouldn’t assume this is true for everyone.

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OP, are you really this dense that you need to post?

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Having a student body that is geographically diverse is attractive to colleges --- out of state publics give merit aid to *very good* out of state students. It doesn't cost them more.

It doesn't cost them more and they broaden their horizons.

What don't you understand, Op?

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Went to Michigan OOS. Was by far the best place I was admitted. And after going to a small HS, needed a place that was going to expand my world and get me out of my shell.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not really. UVA is the #42 best undergrad engineering program in the US. So many other OOS flagships are much better. DC attends an OOS university and was accepted to UVA.

That includes most STEM majors at UVA as well. It’s funny how quickly UVA boosters dismiss the relative weakness of the hard science disciplines at their school. Then they try to tell others that want more highly ranked departments at OOS publics that they’re only going there because they couldn’t get into the flagship. If I want a top Engineering program that I can find and I live in Virginia, I am going out of state to the best school I can afford whether it be public or private. This nonsense about being not worth it to go to any OOS public is ridiculous.

It really depends. If the difference in ranking between the OOS and in state program is not that different (#15 vs #20), I don't think it makes financial sense to go oos.

If you want to go oos for different reasons, I can understand that. But, if you go purely by ranking and cost, that minimal difference in ranking really doesn't matter.

I don't live in VA, btw.

Right. Not everyone does that.

Of course, but for most people, finance is a huge factor, so it doesn't make sense.

However, I will say that I found this stat very interesting. Don't know how accurate it is, but MD has the most college students going OOS. It may be due to the fact that MD is a small state, with a highly educated and sizeable wealthy population, so they can afford OOS or private. Same for NJ.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/college-news-trends/map-states-where-students-move-and-leave-for-college/

Students from Minnesota, New Jersey, and Maryland show the most wanderlust in their college choice–their colleges all enrolled 38 percent or less than the number of college students they produced.

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I know I have heard all the NJ folks complaining how expensive Rutgers is in state.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

You are the reason people don’t like UVA

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I can't believe this troll hasn't been banned yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I have heard all the NJ folks complaining how expensive Rutgers is in state.

? seriously? NJ sends more of their college students OOS than they remain in state.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not UVA, but ds was waitlisted at Tech despite having stats > their 75th percentile.

And that’s why he’s going out of state. Right?

DP, but yes. Has nothing to do with UVA. Our kid didn't get into VT, which was her first choice. No desire to apply to UVA.

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Some people love the familiar. They order the same meals at the same restaurants, month after month, year after year. To other people there is something a bit alluring about things that aren’t close by & familiar. Even if they are not objectively great, they can seem exotic, different, eye-catching, mysterious, unusual, or captivating in a way that the familiar cannot.

I read somewhere that it’s fairly rare that people who grew up on the same kibbutz in Israel end up married to each other. There is something about being in close proximity that often prevents the sort of excitement that the strange (clears throat) can produce.

Some proud graduates of in-state colleges probably think that taking their kids to visit their alma mater will help them get interested in it. It might. But it might make it seem too familiar to be interesting. And if a lot of their high school friends are going to attend that school, that too might make the school more attractive or it might make it seem ordinary & mundane.

People who have worked in the same place for a while, driven the same car for years, or been married to the same person for decades know what I mean. What some people find comfortable & sensible other people find ordinary & boring.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

You are the reason people don’t like UVA

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I can't believe this troll hasn't been banned yet.

It’s not “trolling” to say something that several others have also said time and again on this and other threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP, but college tour guides are supposed to represent the school. I'd be turned off by that too.

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Anonymous wrote:I was down in Charlottesville for a girls trip last fall (none of us are alums nor do we have any biases for or against school)

I was actually sad to see some of the female students heading out for parties. There was one very unfortunate young lady who was wearing a very short skirt walking uphill. I had to look away for fear of exactly what I was seeing - like, I sure hope she was wearing underwear of some sort, but the brief glimpse I caught (not by choice, obviously) made me embarrassed for her.

I realize this isn’t just a UVA thing, but oof-the hoochie wear was everywhere near the Corner and Lawn.

It is just the human body. Get over it. Why would anyone be embarrassed?

You’d be cool with your daughter walking around with her vajayjay out for the world to see?

My main concern would be safety due to people like PP looking up her skirt and such.

DP. Then you'd be an idiot not to advise her to wear something that wouldn't afford that view to any random passerby. JFC, the stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

Not because the tour guide was overweight. Because she did not come across as intelligent when she spoke. Because she was dressed inappropriately. The fact that she was wearing too small/too low cut clothing was accentuated by her weight.