Why do people go to another state’s public university?

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Well if you and your kid are allowing something an overweight tour guide to influence your decision then none of you is serious or smart enough for UVA anyway. So you’re doing the school a favor.

Enjoy the mediocrity of ODU, the safety school for VCU.

Telling that you are only addressing the overweight criticism, but say nothing about the non stop "ums" and "uhs," nor the upspeak or inappropriate clothing.

Look, we didn't just show up on campus and start interacting with random people. In both cases, ODU and UVA, the school chose the dates and times they were available to lead tours. The schools chose which students they wanted to represent them to prospective students and families. The caliber of student chosen by ODU far surpassed what UVA chose. I don't know why UVA chose the way they did, but ODU made good choices.

ODU. Lol. Ok. Go there instead of UVA. That’s a GREAT idea.

I graduated 25 years ago. I'm not going to any college now or in the future. My kid can determine for themselves what caliber of student they'd like to be associated with, and they've made it very clear they don't want to be associated with upspeaking uh-ummers who don't know how to dress appropriately.

Nice defense mechanism. The kid ain’t getting in and you know it. So just go ahead and blame the fat girl if it makes you feel better.

Of course he isn't because he isn't applying there. Not worth wasting money on the application fee or fee to send test score.

Right. He isn’t applying because he knows full well he ain’t getting in.

Thanks for proving the tour guide wasn't an anomaly.

Seriously. The PP is the usual UVA boosting loser. I would hate to be associated with anyone like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

Not because the tour guide was overweight. Because she did not come across as intelligent when she spoke. Because she was dressed inappropriately. The fact that she was wearing too small/too low cut clothing was accentuated by her weight.

If that were true, then the poster would not have even mentioned the weight. She would have focused instead only on her alleged lack of intelligence. So you can just stop now.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

Not because the tour guide was overweight. Because she did not come across as intelligent when she spoke. Because she was dressed inappropriately. The fact that she was wearing too small/too low cut clothing was accentuated by her weight.

If that were true, then the poster would not have even mentioned the weight. She would have focused instead only on her alleged lack of intelligence. So you can just stop now.

And if it were not true , all of the responders would have at least reacted and acknowledged that a tour guide that upspeaks, uses "uh" and "um" in ever sentence, and dresses in 1 inch shorts is not a good representative for a college that wants to be taken seriously. Yet, all of the responders seem to think those things are perfectly fine.
So you can just stop now.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

Not because the tour guide was overweight. Because she did not come across as intelligent when she spoke. Because she was dressed inappropriately. The fact that she was wearing too small/too low cut clothing was accentuated by her weight.

If that were true, then the poster would not have even mentioned the weight. She would have focused instead only on her alleged lack of intelligence. So you can just stop now.

DP. I don’t think she should have mentioned weight, but I believe her point was that the kid showed poor judgment picking out clothes for the job.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not really. UVA is the #42 best undergrad engineering program in the US. So many other OOS flagships are much better. DC attends an OOS university and was accepted to UVA.

That includes most STEM majors at UVA as well. It’s funny how quickly UVA boosters dismiss the relative weakness of the hard science disciplines at their school. Then they try to tell others that want more highly ranked departments at OOS publics that they’re only going there because they couldn’t get into the flagship. If I want a top Engineering program that I can find and I live in Virginia, I am going out of state to the best school I can afford whether it be public or private. This nonsense about being not worth it to go to any OOS public is ridiculous.

It really depends. If the difference in ranking between the OOS and in state program is not that different (#15 vs #20), I don't think it makes financial sense to go oos.

If you want to go oos for different reasons, I can understand that. But, if you go purely by ranking and cost, that minimal difference in ranking really doesn't matter.

I don't live in VA, btw.

Right. Not everyone does that.

Of course, but for most people, finance is a huge factor, so it doesn't make sense.

However, I will say that I found this stat very interesting. Don't know how accurate it is, but MD has the most college students going OOS. It may be due to the fact that MD is a small state, with a highly educated and sizeable wealthy population, so they can afford OOS or private. Same for NJ.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/college-news-trends/map-states-where-students-move-and-leave-for-college/

Students from Minnesota, New Jersey, and Maryland show the most wanderlust in their college choice–their colleges all enrolled 38 percent or less than the number of college students they produced.

Many top students get merit scholarships so I wouldn’t assume in-state is automatically the cheapest option.

Anyway, people choose to go OOS for many different reasons. Only a troll would claim otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Well if you and your kid are allowing something an overweight tour guide to influence your decision then none of you is serious or smart enough for UVA anyway. So you’re doing the school a favor.

Enjoy the mediocrity of ODU, the safety school for VCU.

Telling that you are only addressing the overweight criticism, but say nothing about the non stop "ums" and "uhs," nor the upspeak or inappropriate clothing.

Look, we didn't just show up on campus and start interacting with random people. In both cases, ODU and UVA, the school chose the dates and times they were available to lead tours. The schools chose which students they wanted to represent them to prospective students and families. The caliber of student chosen by ODU far surpassed what UVA chose. I don't know why UVA chose the way they did, but ODU made good choices.

ODU. Lol. Ok. Go there instead of UVA. That’s a GREAT idea.

I graduated 25 years ago. I'm not going to any college now or in the future. My kid can determine for themselves what caliber of student they'd like to be associated with, and they've made it very clear they don't want to be associated with upspeaking uh-ummers who don't know how to dress appropriately.

Nice defense mechanism. The kid ain’t getting in and you know it. So just go ahead and blame the fat girl if it makes you feel better.

Of course he isn't because he isn't applying there. Not worth wasting money on the application fee or fee to send test score.

Right. He isn’t applying because he knows full well he ain’t getting in.

Thanks for proving the tour guide wasn't an anomaly.

Seriously. The PP is the usual UVA boosting loser. I would hate to be associated with anyone like that.

I’m starting to believe it’s a UVA hater who wants UVA to look bad. It’s unlikely that someone would be that aggressively obtuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Well if you and your kid are allowing something an overweight tour guide to influence your decision then none of you is serious or smart enough for UVA anyway. So you’re doing the school a favor.

Enjoy the mediocrity of ODU, the safety school for VCU.

Telling that you are only addressing the overweight criticism, but say nothing about the non stop "ums" and "uhs," nor the upspeak or inappropriate clothing.

Look, we didn't just show up on campus and start interacting with random people. In both cases, ODU and UVA, the school chose the dates and times they were available to lead tours. The schools chose which students they wanted to represent them to prospective students and families. The caliber of student chosen by ODU far surpassed what UVA chose. I don't know why UVA chose the way they did, but ODU made good choices.

ODU. Lol. Ok. Go there instead of UVA. That’s a GREAT idea.

I graduated 25 years ago. I'm not going to any college now or in the future. My kid can determine for themselves what caliber of student they'd like to be associated with, and they've made it very clear they don't want to be associated with upspeaking uh-ummers who don't know how to dress appropriately.

Nice defense mechanism. The kid ain’t getting in and you know it. So just go ahead and blame the fat girl if it makes you feel better.

Of course he isn't because he isn't applying there. Not worth wasting money on the application fee or fee to send test score.

Right. He isn’t applying because he knows full well he ain’t getting in.

Thanks for proving the tour guide wasn't an anomaly.

Seriously. The PP is the usual UVA boosting loser. I would hate to be associated with anyone like that.

I’m starting to believe it’s a UVA hater who wants UVA to look bad. It’s unlikely that someone would be that aggressively obtuse.

Are you kidding? It's exactly what UVA boosters on this site have been saying for years. This is how they behave. IRL and online.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Great way to choose a college.

DP
It’s a valid reason.

Eliminating a school because the tour guide was overweight is juvenile and offensive.

Not because the tour guide was overweight. Because she did not come across as intelligent when she spoke. Because she was dressed inappropriately. The fact that she was wearing too small/too low cut clothing was accentuated by her weight.

If that were true, then the poster would not have even mentioned the weight. She would have focused instead only on her alleged lack of intelligence. So you can just stop now.

And if it were not true , all of the responders would have at least reacted and acknowledged that a tour guide that upspeaks, uses "uh" and "um" in ever sentence, and dresses in 1 inch shorts is not a good representative for a college that wants to be taken seriously. Yet, all of the responders seem to think those things are perfectly fine.
So you can just stop now.

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The only reason the usual suspects are defending the tour guide is because they're embarrassed that she was representing UVA. If that same girl, same clothes, speech, etc., had been a tour guide at any other school, they'd be excoriating her.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Well if you and your kid are allowing something an overweight tour guide to influence your decision then none of you is serious or smart enough for UVA anyway. So you’re doing the school a favor.

Enjoy the mediocrity of ODU, the safety school for VCU.

Telling that you are only addressing the overweight criticism, but say nothing about the non stop "ums" and "uhs," nor the upspeak or inappropriate clothing.

Look, we didn't just show up on campus and start interacting with random people. In both cases, ODU and UVA, the school chose the dates and times they were available to lead tours. The schools chose which students they wanted to represent them to prospective students and families. The caliber of student chosen by ODU far surpassed what UVA chose. I don't know why UVA chose the way they did, but ODU made good choices.

ODU. Lol. Ok. Go there instead of UVA. That’s a GREAT idea.

I graduated 25 years ago. I'm not going to any college now or in the future. My kid can determine for themselves what caliber of student they'd like to be associated with, and they've made it very clear they don't want to be associated with upspeaking uh-ummers who don't know how to dress appropriately.

Nice defense mechanism. The kid ain’t getting in and you know it. So just go ahead and blame the fat girl if it makes you feel better.

Of course he isn't because he isn't applying there. Not worth wasting money on the application fee or fee to send test score.

Right. He isn’t applying because he knows full well he ain’t getting in.

Thanks for proving the tour guide wasn't an anomaly.

Seriously. The PP is the usual UVA boosting loser. I would hate to be associated with anyone like that.

I’m starting to believe it’s a UVA hater who wants UVA to look bad. It’s unlikely that someone would be that aggressively obtuse.

Are you kidding? It's exactly what UVA boosters on this site have been saying for years. This is how they behave. IRL and online.

This is beyond normal levels of obnoxious though.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

I'm not being obtuse.
Our guide at UVA was overweight and wearing daisy dukes and an extremely low cut shirt. She punctuated every single sentence with "um" and used "uh" as a comma in about half of them. She "upspoke" the entire time.
The ODU students were dressed in appropriate business casual. They were confident and articulate.
The difference was night and day.
If our guide is not representative of the UVA "target applicant pool" I can't imagine why she was chosen as a guide.

Well if you and your kid are allowing something an overweight tour guide to influence your decision then none of you is serious or smart enough for UVA anyway. So you’re doing the school a favor.

Enjoy the mediocrity of ODU, the safety school for VCU.

Telling that you are only addressing the overweight criticism, but say nothing about the non stop "ums" and "uhs," nor the upspeak or inappropriate clothing.

Look, we didn't just show up on campus and start interacting with random people. In both cases, ODU and UVA, the school chose the dates and times they were available to lead tours. The schools chose which students they wanted to represent them to prospective students and families. The caliber of student chosen by ODU far surpassed what UVA chose. I don't know why UVA chose the way they did, but ODU made good choices.

ODU. Lol. Ok. Go there instead of UVA. That’s a GREAT idea.

I graduated 25 years ago. I'm not going to any college now or in the future. My kid can determine for themselves what caliber of student they'd like to be associated with, and they've made it very clear they don't want to be associated with upspeaking uh-ummers who don't know how to dress appropriately.

Nice defense mechanism. The kid ain’t getting in and you know it. So just go ahead and blame the fat girl if it makes you feel better.

Of course he isn't because he isn't applying there. Not worth wasting money on the application fee or fee to send test score.

Right. He isn’t applying because he knows full well he ain’t getting in.

Thanks for proving the tour guide wasn't an anomaly.

Seriously. The PP is the usual UVA boosting loser. I would hate to be associated with anyone like that.

I’m starting to believe it’s a UVA hater who wants UVA to look bad. It’s unlikely that someone would be that aggressively obtuse.

Are you kidding? It's exactly what UVA boosters on this site have been saying for years. This is how they behave. IRL and online.

This is beyond normal levels of obnoxious though.

Yes, it is. But that's the UVA booster(s) for you.

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Post after post slamming a young college student for being overweight and I’M the troll???

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason they go to private schools. They don’t like their in-state public options.

What a polite way to say Maryland isn’t ideal…

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Anonymous wrote:Post after post slamming a young college student for being overweight and I’M the troll???

NO ONE, including me-the person who posted about that experience, has slammed a college student for being overweight. I am critical of her choice to wear clothes that were ill-fitting and inappropriate while conducting a tour.

But now that I have your attention, can you please explain why you think upspeaking, using "uh" and "um" in every sentence, and wearing micro shorts and low cut tops is the sign of the best and brightest?

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason they go to private schools. They don’t like their in-state public options.

What a polite way to say Maryland isn’t ideal…

Maryland is too close to the DMV and doesn’t have UVA’s cache. So kids from Montgomery County are embarrassed to go.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason they go to private schools. They don’t like their in-state public options.

What a polite way to say Maryland isn’t ideal…

Maryland is too close to the DMV and doesn’t have UVA’s cache. So kids from Montgomery County are embarrassed to go.

What cache?